Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! Who will win the NFC EAST and who will go far in the Playoffs and why. Make sure you bring facts not what you think. We all know how you Redskins fans are.
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! 1. New York Giants - 12-4, NFC East Champions. 2. Washington Redskins - 11-5, NFC Wild-Card.3. Dallas Cowboys - 11-5, Miss Playoffs/maybe Wild-Card.4. Philadelphia Eagles - 8-8, Miss playoffs.I think to the average football fan, this sounds about right, but in reality, any of these teams can win the division. I don't think it's too much of an assumption to say that one of these teams could be there in Dolphin Stadium this February. It's just a gut feeling, but I think that New York is going to have a hell of a season this year, as will Washington and Dallas. It's a very hard division in football to decide, but this is the way I think it will pull out.
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrowhead? @ Jun 23 2006, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. New York Giants - 12-4, NFC East Champions. 2. Washington Redskins - 11-5, NFC Wild-Card.3. Dallas Cowboys - 11-5, Miss Playoffs/maybe Wild-Card.4. Philadelphia Eagles - 8-8, Miss playoffs.I think to the average football fan, this sounds about right, but in reality, any of these teams can win the division. I don't think it's too much of an assumption to say that one of these teams could be there in Dolphin Stadium this February. It's just a gut feeling, but I think that New York is going to have a hell of a season this year, as will Washington and Dallas. It's a very hard division in football to decide, but this is the way I think it will pull out.</div>Arrowhead,You're pretty cool but I have to disagree about a few things. And not I'm not trying to make a case at all for Dallas. I'm only look at the schedule for the Giants, Redskins and Cowboys. 1. Giants - I think will lose more than 4 games. I think it will be very hard to to beat each team in the division twice. I think Washington and Dallas will be them at least ones. Not to mention, Indy, Seattle, Tampa and Chicago. Those are not push overs. When I think about that's a pretty hard schedule. 2. Washington - You can make a case that Washington has an easy schedule. But I don't see them either beating the Giants or the Cowboys twice. And I don't see them beating Indy or Carolina. But I do think they will make the playoffs.3. Dallas - I would say that Dallas schedule is not as easy as Washington but the last 4 games should be wins and you know going down the stretch that's important. Remember what Washington did last year? So I think it will be1. Redskins2. Dallas3. Giants4. Eagles.With Redskins and Cowboys advancing to the playoffs. I could very well be wrong also.
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chaintime @ Jun 23 2006, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like the Cowboys, with that offense how can you go wrong?</div>What offense? A mediocre running game, a crumbling line, and old recievers who have another year or 2 in them and are slowing gradually. Honestly, I think the Redskins win the division by tiebreaker with the Cowboys. At 11-5 a piece the tiebreaker goes to the Redskins for a 2-0 series lead during the regular season. The Giants, I think, will fall to 10-6 and may miss the wild card spots. The Eagles won't get the job done for me. I think they may reach a 7-9 or 8-8 season, but really have nothing going for them anymore. No star WR for them, no really good RB, not a terrific start with a QB coming off a year injury, and let's face it, their defense is getting old and slow. Dawkins, who can still throw some output, is getting up there, and the only thing to help them is their young corners. I could be wrong but we'll see.1. Washington Redskins (11-5) Win the NFC East in a tiebreaker.2. Dallas Cowboys (11-5) On the losing end of the tiebreaker, but make a wildcard appearance.3. New York Giants (10-6) Do not make playoffs. 4. Philadelphia Eagles (7-9) Season goes downhill once again.
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jun 25 2006, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What offense? A mediocre running game, a crumbling line, and old recievers who have another year or 2 in them and are slowing gradually.</div>You bring up a good point--Dallas has some old players where when you look at the Redskins we have a bunch of talented youth, not stars on the downside of their career. I think that is really going to help us especially at the end of the season when the old fellas start to break down a little more. Young guys are always able to handle more. When you look at our whole offense, the only REAL old guy is Mark Brunell and he is the same age as Drew Bledsoe. The awesome thing about Brunell is he just came off arguably his best NFL season, putting up what I BELIEVE to be Pro Bowl stats, age barely seems to be affecting him.
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Johnny White Guy @ Jun 25 2006, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jun 25 2006, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What offense? A mediocre running game, a crumbling line, and old recievers who have another year or 2 in them and are slowing gradually.</div>You bring up a good point--Dallas has some old players where when you look at the Redskins we have a bunch of talented youth, not stars on the downside of their career. I think that is really going to help us especially at the end of the season when the old fellas start to break down a little more. Young guys are always able to handle more. When you look at our whole offense, the only REAL old guy is Mark Brunell and he is the same age as Drew Bledsoe. The awesome thing about Brunell is he just came off arguably his best NFL season, putting up what I BELIEVE to be Pro Bowl stats, age barely seems to be affecting him.</div>Mark Brunell? A good year? Did I miss something here? Bledsoe had more yards with a missing LT. What was Brunell's excuse. If I remember correctly the second half of the year you guys offense was not impressive at all. Hence, why you guys didn't do much in the playoffs because of no offense! It was all the defense.And what are you talking about Dallas having an old offense? Look at your guys.Ray Brown - 40ishJohn Jansen - 30Rabach - 29Thrash - 31Brunell - 36Samuels - 29Seems to me the Redskins offense is just as old my friend.And you need not worry about our line. Because your lines average age is something around 30, and that's not too young.
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! How do you all think the giants fall, the giants are an even better team, which pwned the hell out of the entire nfc east.
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jun 25 2006, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chaintime @ Jun 23 2006, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like the Cowboys, with that offense how can you go wrong?</div>What offense? A mediocre running game, a crumbling line, and old recievers who have another year or 2 in them and are slowing gradually. Honestly, I think the Redskins win the division by tiebreaker with the Cowboys. At 11-5 a piece the tiebreaker goes to the Redskins for a 2-0 series lead during the regular season. The Giants, I think, will fall to 10-6 and may miss the wild card spots. The Eagles won't get the job done for me. I think they may reach a 7-9 or 8-8 season, but really have nothing going for them anymore. No star WR for them, no really good RB, not a terrific start with a QB coming off a year injury, and let's face it, their defense is getting old and slow. Dawkins, who can still throw some output, is getting up there, and the only thing to help them is their young corners. I could be wrong but we'll see.1. Washington Redskins (11-5) Win the NFC East in a tiebreaker.2. Dallas Cowboys (11-5) On the losing end of the tiebreaker, but make a wildcard appearance.3. New York Giants (10-6) Do not make playoffs. 4. Philadelphia Eagles (7-9) Season goes downhill once again.</div>lol. TO and Julius Jones are all you need. Their defense is going to be killer too. Giants have made better offseason moves in my opinion than the Redskins and had a better draft. But, that could be biased, so i will just stick with my Cowboys statement.
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! CipherCowboy, buddy, our second half of the year was when our entire team came together. 5 and a row or we don't go? Well we went. And that's more than you can say for your sorry team. And to say our offense started crumbling at the end of the regular season is funny because we dominated you guys 35-7. That's a pretty decisive win if you asked me. Pretty sure all 5 scores were straight from the O, too. Don't scrutinize the 'skins for our playoff performance when you didn't even make it.
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! You know what, fuck this. All Cowboy fans think Redskin fans bullshit about things. Clinton Portis:1516 Yds4.3 AVG11 TDJulius Jones:993 Yds3.9 AVG5 TD___________________Mark Brunell:85.9 Rating23 TD10 INT3050 YdsDrew Bledsoe:83.7 Rating23 TD17 INT3639 Yds____________________Now for #1 Recievers:TO:47 Catches763 Yds6 TDSantana Moss:84 Catches1483 Yds9 TDNow please, all our number 1 starts on offense rape the shit out of yours. Now will you please stop talking out of your asses.
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! I can sit here and argue this all day.The Skins overpayed a bunch of guys this off-season and now everyone thinks they have such a great chance to win the division. Andre Carter? Archuleta? Randle El? LLOYD!? What have ANY of them EVER proven? Randle El is a converted QB which people seem to cream their pants about, but he's never done anything more than return kicks. Lloyd has shown flashes, and may be better out of San Fran, but is unproven and shouldn't be considered a factor this early. Archuleta is a good safety, but not a game changer. Carter has never been anything. Brunell isn't going to hold up this whole season, and I expect Campbell to be in there halfway through the year..And I doubt that he'll have a Roethlisberger type season. They aren't much better than they were last year, they made a slight adjustment at receiver and grabbed two decent players for their defense, but it's nothing that's going to help them improve on what they did last year. The Cowboys..It's already been said. Bledsoe and Glenn just aren't going to hold up, and past Glenn and Owens there's nothing at wide receiver. Owens will be Owens and tear apart that lockerroom, I've seen it first hand and he even said he doesn't plan on changing, which is pretty stupid to be saying already. The two tight end sets they'll be running should be productive, but you're not going to make it very far off of that..Especially since Fasano is first going to need to prove himself. The defense looks good and bad at the same time..Ayodele is going to have to prove he fits in the 3-4 defense (shouldn't be that hard though since he played DE in college and did a good job at OLB with Jacksonville) and Bobby Carpenter is another rookie who's going to have to play a big role for them. They still dont have a free safety, and past Newman their corners are mediocre..And Jason Ferguson had trouble seeing the field last year behind a declining LaRoi Glover.The Giants look to be in good shape if they can keep their egos in check. Shockey and Burress can blow up at any moment (or Shockey can just get hurt ). The Eagles were on a clear Superbowl hangover last year...Lost many of their key players, and had a few holes in the front seven of the defense that caused the entire unit to fall apart. Adding Darren Howard through free agency and Brodrick Bunkley and Chris Gocong through the draft (both will be brought along slowly and put into a deep rotation) helps plug up those holes, and youngsters Trent Cole and Mike Patterson have another year under their wings, which is extremely vital in Jim Johnson's defense..Not to mention both looked great in their rookie years anyway. There are so many combinations we can use on the defensive line that we will be giving offensive lines and quarterbacks headaches all year...Pass rush with Cole and Kearse on the ends and Howard and Bunkley in the middle...Stuff the run with Patterson and Jasper in the middle and Darwin Walker and Howard on the ends, with Kearse at the joker spot to keep some speed on the field just in case. Our front seven problems are solved, and that along with the return of Lito Sheppard will fix the secondary "problems" aswell.On the offensive side of the ball, everyone is going to point to two things. First, our wide receivers. Who was starting all those years when we were making it to the NFC championship? Thrash and Pinkston...I think we can all agree that we've got better corps now than we did then, even if TO isn't a part of it. Reggie Brown is the next big thing on this team, and if you didn't see it during his limited play last year you'll see it this season when he's McNabb's #1 option. Pinkston isn't well liked and rightfully so, but he is an undenyable deep threat who at the very least opens up other options. Jabar Gaffney was such a quiet signing who I think will make a ton of noise. He was a top 5 WR signing this off-season IMO and has supposedly looked great out there. He'll have great matchups in the slot if he doesn't wind up starting. Greg Lewis surprised me when he didn't explode last year in a starting role, but I think limited time on the field for him and the occational deep route is what makes him most productive. He should be a key target off the bench in deep passing situations. Jason Avant has supposedly looked great aswell..We don't have a clear cut #1 WR as of now (I'm almost positive Reggie Brown WILL become that eventually, though) but we've got 4-5 solid ones who will all produce equally. That doesn't include LJ Smith or another quiet signing, Matt Schobel out of Cincinatti, a team that doesn't utilize the TE much and didn't allow him to showcase his talent. Then of course you've got Brian Westbrook who has proven he's got some of the best hands for a RB in the game. He may lead the team in receiving yards and/or receptions.The second thing everyone will point to on our offense is our running game. No, Brian Westbrook can't run it between the tackles, explode through the line and bust out a 15-20 yard run. No, he can't lower his head and run defenders over. We drafted Ryan Moats for a reason. He didn't see the field much last year because it took him forever to learn the playbook, but once he stepped in for Westbrook he exploded and I know I sound like a broken record, but he reportedly looks amazing aswell..Almost as if he's been in the system for years. He may get more rush attempts and rush yards than Westbrook this year. As far as the power rushing game goes, look for Bruce Perry and Thomas Tapeh to get the goal line and short yardage carries. Tapeh isn't at 100%, but both guys are young and extremely talented. Moving to special teams....Todd France, Reggie Hodges, and Dexter Wynn. Last year's kicker, punter, and return man, respectedly. Akers is back and here's that word again, "reportedly" is drilling kicks from 50+ yards. Dirk Johnson should be returning healthy and has been great in his few years here punting...And of course we drafted Olympian Jeremy Bloom, who will hopefully utilize his speed and agility to be a top return man..all he has to do is shake off the rust, but we won't be asking him to learn much of the playbook, just return kicks. This team is better than the one that went to the Superbowl. We lost TO, but we mowed down Minnesota and Atlanta in the playoffs without him, two teams that had pretty good defensive backfields. We're deeper at every position, more flexible on both sides of the ball, and (hopefully) healthy all around. I'm not worried about a thing and it really bothers me when I see everyone putting us in last place in the division SOLELY based on last year.....To answer the actual topic question, I think it's a tossup between the Eagles and Giants. Both teams should make the playoffs, but it should be a fight until the end of the season. All four teams should win at least 10 games, but I think Philly and the Giants are just a cut above Washington and Dallas.
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! My prediction1. New York Giants2. Washington Redskins3. Dallas Cowboys4. Philadelphia Eagles Yes, I know thats exactly the same as past year, but I think thats how it will play out again.If you need to know why I think that way check out 30 of the other threads in this divisional forums cause I've explained it before. lmao
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jun 25 2006, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eagles my ass. No way.</div>Great analysis. Way to follow up on a 10 paragraph explanation.
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GaMeTiMe @ Jun 26 2006, 02:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jun 25 2006, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eagles my ass. No way.</div>Great analysis. Way to follow up on a 10 paragraph explanation.</div>It is, isn't it?By the way that wasn't an essay, and if it was, it wasn't written correctly in the proper format. Besides your 10 paragraph "essay" was complete bullshit and the Eagles won't contend for the NFC East.
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jun 26 2006, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You know what, fuck this. All Cowboy fans think Redskin fans bullshit about things. Clinton Portis:1516 Yds4.3 AVG11 TDJulius Jones:993 Yds3.9 AVG5 TD___________________Mark Brunell:85.9 Rating23 TD10 INT3050 YdsDrew Bledsoe:83.7 Rating23 TD17 INT3639 Yds____________________Now for #1 Recievers:TO:47 Catches763 Yds6 TDSantana Moss:84 Catches1483 Yds9 TDNow please, all our number 1 starts on offense rape the shit out of yours. Now will you please stop talking out of your asses.</div>Man did I strike a nerve or something? One thing I'll give you Redskins fans, you guys know how to use profanity. But if you were a true football fan you would know, quarterback rating is a bunch of crock! The one thing you didn't include in that stat was that Bledsoe had more yards. And that's coming with a busted line like every Redskin Fan keep reminding us Cowboys Fans. But again, I will not make excuses.As far as Portis goes, man you got me on that one. I can't compare Jones to Portis at all. TO to Santana Moss? I won't even go there because you're smart enough to know that TO is better. And since you bring up stats (by the way, I love stats...thanks from bring them up), true that Moss had more yards. I like Moss, he's a gamer. But Moss had 1604 yards (including playoff games correct?), which comes to (and I even include the playoff games) 89 yards a game. Not bad at all.T.O. in his seven games that he played had 763 yards, which comes to 109 yards. So if you're going to bring up stats than do the math and tell me who's the better receiver. Again, I'm not talking bad about Moss at all because is one of the top 3 receivers but you bring up stats so I'll give you stats.Now lets not stop there. Our number two receiver that everyone thought wasn't going to make it through the whole year, Terry Glenn had 1136 yards. While your #2 (who ever that maybe but for the sake of being fair I'll say all of your receivers not including Moss are #2) combined Jacobs, Randle El, Lloyd,Thrash and Patton combined for 1802 yards. That's 666 yards more than one person. Which again, go by stats, Dallas #1 and #2 receivers are better than Washington. So barring that Dallas line does a decent job with Bledsoe that tells me out passing game could be better than Washington. The X factor of course is Jones, which I see him having a health year. And even with a health year, Portis is a stallion so that he'll win that everytime.Now I'm not talking bad about the Redskins but don't get all upset when I defend the Cowboys when I read crap about Dallas being too old. At least I gave you guys credit. And if I'm not mistaken, I said that Washington will win the East. But that they will not go far in the playoffs. You guys live in La La Land can't see what other teams in the division has done. And I can even make the case that the Giants did a job in the offseason than Washington.
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GaMeTiMe @ Jun 26 2006, 12:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can sit here and argue this all day.The Skins overpayed a bunch of guys this off-season and now everyone thinks they have such a great chance to win the division. Andre Carter? Archuleta? Randle El? LLOYD!? What have ANY of them EVER proven? Randle El is a converted QB which people seem to cream their pants about, but he's never done anything more than return kicks. Lloyd has shown flashes, and may be better out of San Fran, but is unproven and shouldn't be considered a factor this early. Archuleta is a good safety, but not a game changer. Carter has never been anything. Brunell isn't going to hold up this whole season, and I expect Campbell to be in there halfway through the year..And I doubt that he'll have a Roethlisberger type season. They aren't much better than they were last year, they made a slight adjustment at receiver and grabbed two decent players for their defense, but it's nothing that's going to help them improve on what they did last year. The Cowboys..It's already been said. Bledsoe and Glenn just aren't going to hold up, and past Glenn and Owens there's nothing at wide receiver. Owens will be Owens and tear apart that lockerroom, I've seen it first hand and he even said he doesn't plan on changing, which is pretty stupid to be saying already. The two tight end sets they'll be running should be productive, but you're not going to make it very far off of that..Especially since Fasano is first going to need to prove himself. The defense looks good and bad at the same time..Ayodele is going to have to prove he fits in the 3-4 defense (shouldn't be that hard though since he played DE in college and did a good job at OLB with Jacksonville) and Bobby Carpenter is another rookie who's going to have to play a big role for them. They still dont have a free safety, and past Newman their corners are mediocre..And Jason Ferguson had trouble seeing the field last year behind a declining LaRoi Glover.The Giants look to be in good shape if they can keep their egos in check. Shockey and Burress can blow up at any moment (or Shockey can just get hurt ). The Eagles were on a clear Superbowl hangover last year...Lost many of their key players, and had a few holes in the front seven of the defense that caused the entire unit to fall apart. Adding Darren Howard through free agency and Brodrick Bunkley and Chris Gocong through the draft (both will be brought along slowly and put into a deep rotation) helps plug up those holes, and youngsters Trent Cole and Mike Patterson have another year under their wings, which is extremely vital in Jim Johnson's defense..Not to mention both looked great in their rookie years anyway. There are so many combinations we can use on the defensive line that we will be giving offensive lines and quarterbacks headaches all year...Pass rush with Cole and Kearse on the ends and Howard and Bunkley in the middle...Stuff the run with Patterson and Jasper in the middle and Darwin Walker and Howard on the ends, with Kearse at the joker spot to keep some speed on the field just in case. Our front seven problems are solved, and that along with the return of Lito Sheppard will fix the secondary "problems" aswell.On the offensive side of the ball, everyone is going to point to two things. First, our wide receivers. Who was starting all those years when we were making it to the NFC championship? Thrash and Pinkston...I think we can all agree that we've got better corps now than we did then, even if TO isn't a part of it. Reggie Brown is the next big thing on this team, and if you didn't see it during his limited play last year you'll see it this season when he's McNabb's #1 option. Pinkston isn't well liked and rightfully so, but he is an undenyable deep threat who at the very least opens up other options. Jabar Gaffney was such a quiet signing who I think will make a ton of noise. He was a top 5 WR signing this off-season IMO and has supposedly looked great out there. He'll have great matchups in the slot if he doesn't wind up starting. Greg Lewis surprised me when he didn't explode last year in a starting role, but I think limited time on the field for him and the occational deep route is what makes him most productive. He should be a key target off the bench in deep passing situations. Jason Avant has supposedly looked great aswell..We don't have a clear cut #1 WR as of now (I'm almost positive Reggie Brown WILL become that eventually, though) but we've got 4-5 solid ones who will all produce equally. That doesn't include LJ Smith or another quiet signing, Matt Schobel out of Cincinatti, a team that doesn't utilize the TE much and didn't allow him to showcase his talent. Then of course you've got Brian Westbrook who has proven he's got some of the best hands for a RB in the game. He may lead the team in receiving yards and/or receptions.The second thing everyone will point to on our offense is our running game. No, Brian Westbrook can't run it between the tackles, explode through the line and bust out a 15-20 yard run. No, he can't lower his head and run defenders over. We drafted Ryan Moats for a reason. He didn't see the field much last year because it took him forever to learn the playbook, but once he stepped in for Westbrook he exploded and I know I sound like a broken record, but he reportedly looks amazing aswell..Almost as if he's been in the system for years. He may get more rush attempts and rush yards than Westbrook this year. As far as the power rushing game goes, look for Bruce Perry and Thomas Tapeh to get the goal line and short yardage carries. Tapeh isn't at 100%, but both guys are young and extremely talented. Moving to special teams....Todd France, Reggie Hodges, and Dexter Wynn. Last year's kicker, punter, and return man, respectedly. Akers is back and here's that word again, "reportedly" is drilling kicks from 50+ yards. Dirk Johnson should be returning healthy and has been great in his few years here punting...And of course we drafted Olympian Jeremy Bloom, who will hopefully utilize his speed and agility to be a top return man..all he has to do is shake off the rust, but we won't be asking him to learn much of the playbook, just return kicks. This team is better than the one that went to the Superbowl. We lost TO, but we mowed down Minnesota and Atlanta in the playoffs without him, two teams that had pretty good defensive backfields. We're deeper at every position, more flexible on both sides of the ball, and (hopefully) healthy all around. I'm not worried about a thing and it really bothers me when I see everyone putting us in last place in the division SOLELY based on last year.....To answer the actual topic question, I think it's a tossup between the Eagles and Giants. Both teams should make the playoffs, but it should be a fight until the end of the season. All four teams should win at least 10 games, but I think Philly and the Giants are just a cut above Washington and Dallas.</div>WOW! That was pretty good. You bring up some good points but there is no way because it would take a very long time to prove that the Eagles will be last in the division at the end of the year. There is no way the Eagles can beat out Washington, Dallas and New York. I like McNabb but he's no Superman. But I do think they will be competitive.So I give your report a D+ only because of your spirit...
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CipherCowboy @ Jun 26 2006, 09:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if you were a true football fan you would know, quarterback rating is a bunch of crock! The one thing you didn't include in that stat was that Bledsoe had more yards. And that's coming with a busted line like every Redskin Fan keep reminding us Cowboys Fans. But again, I will not make excuses.TO to Santana Moss? I won't even go there because you're smart enough to know that TO is better. And since you bring up stats (by the way, I love stats...thanks from bring them up), true that Moss had more yards. I like Moss, he's a gamer. But Moss had 1604 yards (including playoff games correct?), which comes to (and I even include the playoff games) 89 yards a game. Not bad at all.T.O. in his seven games that he played had 763 yards, which comes to 109 yards. So if you're going to bring up stats than do the math and tell me who's the better receiver. Again, I'm not talking bad about Moss at all because is one of the top 3 receivers but you bring up stats so I'll give you stats.Now lets not stop there. Our number two receiver that everyone thought wasn't going to make it through the whole year, Terry Glenn had 1136 yards. While your #2 (who ever that maybe but for the sake of being fair I'll say all of your receivers not including Moss are #2) combined Jacobs, Randle El, Lloyd,Thrash and Patton combined for 1802 yards. That's 666 yards more than one person. Which again, go by stats, Dallas #1 and #2 receivers are better than Washington. So barring that Dallas line does a decent job with Bledsoe that tells me out passing game could be better than Washington. The X factor of course is Jones, which I see him having a health year. And even with a health year, Portis is a stallion so that he'll win that everytime.Now I'm not talking bad about the Redskins but don't get all upset when I defend the Cowboys when I read crap about Dallas being too old. At least I gave you guys credit. And if I'm not mistaken, I said that Washington will win the East. But that they will not go far in the playoffs. You guys live in La La Land can't see what other teams in the division has done. And I can even make the case that the Giants did a job in the offseason than Washington.</div>Yes, apparently more yards matters when you thro 7 more interceptions, the same amount of TD's, and 589 yards more. I think I'd take 7 less interceptions.It's all about consistency. TO can't even keep his big ass mouth shut and stay on a team because he can't handle the way his team plays. If he doesn't get the ball he bitches, simple as that.Let me ask you this, do any of your recievers have this thing we call a Super Bowl ring? And also, how many yards did your other recievers combine for? I'm too lazy to look that up.Don't go bullshitting me on credit here. I said you guys would lose the tiebreaker to lead the NFC East. Honestly, I don't care what you think just because your a Cowboy fan. Cowboy fans tend to have their heads up their asses 16-19 hours a day, the remaining time their sleeping.
Re: NFC EAST - Who Win! PS: Since the Redskins fans wanted to point out stats, heres something you might like...Best Career Seasons for your Wide RecieversJames Thrash - 200163 Receptions, 833 yds, 8 Touchdowns (52.0 yds per game as a teams #1 reciever)David Patten - 2002 61 Receptions, 824 yds, 5 Touchdowns (51.5 yds per game as a #2-3 reciever)Brandon Lloyd - 200548 Receptions, 733 yds, 5 Touchdowns (45.8 yds per game as a teams #1 reciever)Antwaan Randle El - 200443 Receptions, 601 yds, 3 Touchdowns (37.5 yds per game as a teams #2-3 reciever)Can we officially label them as overrated yet?
