Add another "F" in the name for the pretty pink flags these guys are going to end up wearing. Funny they bring up the Roy Williams / Terrell Owens situation. Evidently, if a guy gets past you, you should go ahead and let him score the touchdown. Some of these hits are questionable, but contesting others are sad. <span style="color:red">New Unnecessarily Roughness Rule Link</span>
Why? I liked it when you get to see some hard hits. Especially to those that I don't like. But I guess it will game the recievers more safer?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MKIV_Supra)</div><div class='quotemain'>Why? I liked it when you get to see some hard hits. Especially to those that I don't like. But I guess it will game the recievers more safer?</div> Believe what you want....but its all about $$$ to the league.
Its just like after we roughed up the colts...the league changed the rule so they could run all over everyone...well almost everyone..haha but ya I can understand a play like Sapps being illegal but to not be able to pull someone down from behind...that would be just ridiculous.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'>Its just like after we roughed up the colts...the league changed the rule so they could run all over everyone</div> Changed? You're just begging to make BearsFan a part of this thread, aren't you?!?
It's football, that's what they get paid to do. I don't like the Sapp hit, that was just plain dirty, but R. Williams couldn't help how he tackled TO. That was just bad positioning. I don't like this one bit. Soon we'll be watching professional flag football.
Sorry....reEMPAHSIZED...I just love that it only got worse for the colts in the playoffs after Dungy and Martz making a big stink about it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'>Its just like after we roughed up the colts...the league changed the rule so they could run all over everyone...</div> You mean after yall held up the colts receivers and pass interfered a bit too?? yea thats when they changed the rule.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BJames1156)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'>Its just like after we roughed up the colts...the league changed the rule so they could run all over everyone...</div> You mean after yall held up the colts receivers and pass interfered a bit too?? yea thats when they changed the rule.</div> Regardless the rules go both ways and we made them look even worse with the New EMPHASIS....I just hated the way it came about...if the colts and Rams had tough receivers that can fight through a jam and ended up playing in the superbowl 2 years ago you never would have heard a peep....but because they were bitter Dungy and Martz (both on competion commitee) made a big stink. Basically what we were doing was what receivers do all the time to DB's but instead of throwing a pick we were disrupting routes and timing....I didn't see a flag when freddie mitchel blasted randall gay allowing TO to be all alone for a 40 yard gain....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BJames1156)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'>Its just like after we roughed up the colts...the league changed the rule so they could run all over everyone...</div> You mean after yall held up the colts receivers and pass interfered a bit too?? yea thats when they changed the rule.</div> Regardless the rules go both ways and we made them look even worse with the New EMPHASIS....I just hated the way it came about...if the colts and Rams had tough receivers that can fight through a jam and ended up playing in the superbowl 2 years ago you never would have heard a peep....but because they were bitter Dungy and Martz (both on competion commitee) made a big stink. Basically what we were doing was what receivers do all the time to DB's but instead of throwing a pick we were disrupting routes and timing....I didn't see a flag when freddie mitchel blasted randall gay allowing TO to be all alone for a 40 yard gain....</div> It is not like they made a big stink to CHANGE the rules. They made a big stink because some players were VIOLATING the EXISTING rules. All they did was try to get the rules enforced.
Ray Lewis will get T.O one way or another! http://www.baltimoreravens.com/template.ph...content_id=5999 It talks about the same "Unnessessary Roughness towards Dave Zastudil (Punter)."
it's football people. if they played a few decades ago some of these players now wouldn't be able to handle the hits and the ruff stuff that came after the play was over. these ladies should shut up and play the game or just quit and get a safe job. they get paid a lot of money so they should just deal with it. if the ref doesn't see it then it's too bad. challange the call if they think differently.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BJames1156)</div><div class='quotemain'> You mean after yall held up the colts receivers and pass interfered a bit too?? yea thats when they changed the rule.</div> Regardless the rules go both ways and we made them look even worse with the New EMPHASIS....I just hated the way it came about...if the colts and Rams had tough receivers that can fight through a jam and ended up playing in the superbowl 2 years ago you never would have heard a peep....but because they were bitter Dungy and Martz (both on competion commitee) made a big stink. Basically what we were doing was what receivers do all the time to DB's but instead of throwing a pick we were disrupting routes and timing....I didn't see a flag when freddie mitchel blasted randall gay allowing TO to be all alone for a 40 yard gain....</div> It is not like they made a big stink to CHANGE the rules. They made a big stink because some players were VIOLATING the EXISTING rules. All they did was try to get the rules enforced.</div> but like I said if they had won I bet you never would have heard a word....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'> Regardless the rules go both ways and we made them look even worse with the New EMPHASIS....I just hated the way it came about...if the colts and Rams had tough receivers that can fight through a jam and ended up playing in the superbowl 2 years ago you never would have heard a peep....but because they were bitter Dungy and Martz (both on competion commitee) made a big stink. Basically what we were doing was what receivers do all the time to DB's but instead of throwing a pick we were disrupting routes and timing....I didn't see a flag when freddie mitchel blasted randall gay allowing TO to be all alone for a 40 yard gain....</div> It is not like they made a big stink to CHANGE the rules. They made a big stink because some players were VIOLATING the EXISTING rules. All they did was try to get the rules enforced.</div> Both of them realistically could not have won that season, so one of them would have bitched. The other would have agreed, just from the standpoint of its good for my team. but like I said if they had won I bet you never would have heard a word....</div>
OK....wow...I'm a little stunned by this new piece Cowboys endorse the 'Roy Williams Rule' By Charean Williams Star-Telegram Staff Writer KAPALU, Hawaii - The Cowboys will vote to ban the horse-collar tackling technique, owner Jerry Jones said Tuesday. NFL owners today will decide whether to deem the tactic unsportsmanlike conduct and subject to a 15-yard penalty and a fine. The technique, made infamous by Cowboys safety Roy Williams last season, involves grabbing a runner behind his neck and immediately pulling back on the shoulder pads. "It's strictly a safety issue," Jones said. "It was shown that the combination of being able to stop the player's progress and follow through with the tackle was more risky than we wanted it to be. That's the way I look at it. I think players like Roy Williams expose some of the things, safety-wise, in a very positive way that we need to be looking at, because it takes a lot of skill to do some of those things." The competition committee made its recommendation to outlaw the tackling technique in a presentation to owners Tuesday. Mike Pereira, the NFL's director of officiating, showed videos of three horse-collars, all involving Williams, that would be made illegal by the votes of 24 owners. The media is referring to it as the "Roy Williams Rule." "I know people are talking about it being about Roy Williams, but it's really not," Pereira said. "It just happened that he was involved in some of these plays, and considering the extent of the injuries, this has become a concern." Williams seriously injured three players with the technique in 2004. Tennessee Titans receiver Tyrone Calico injured both knees in a preseason game at Dallas on Aug. 30, requiring surgery on his left knee. Calico tried to play in one game before going on injured reserve. Ravens running back Musa Smith went on injured reserve after a Nov. 21 tackle by Williams left him with a compound fracture in his right leg that required surgery. Eagles receiver Terrell Owens' surgically repaired right ankle and fractured fibula after a Dec. 19 tackle by Williams kept Owens out four games, including two in the postseason, over seven weeks. In addition, a horse-collar tackle by Williams on running back Jamal Lewis forced Lewis to miss two games with a sprained right ankle, Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome said Tuesday. "There were four different occasions that it ended up being an injury on that type of tackle," Newsome said, "so from a safety standpoint, we have to try to find a way to eliminate that." The horse-collar is among 19 proposals owners are expected to vote on today.
I'm interested to see how this would go into writing. I'm also concerned about what is next? You can't leave your feet to make a tackle?
Roy Williams Rule It passed. The results were rather interesting. Jerry Jones was for the change all this time until the final wording was developed. Then he flip-flopped for a good reason. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>That was a problem Jones had with the rule ? the line between penalties and fines. "It wasn't clear enough in my mind to officiate," Jones said. "They said there would be very few penalties, it would be more about fines. My thought then was just make it a fine." At least one of Williams' horse collars in 2004 would not have been a penalty. The key word in the rule is "immediately." "If you don't immediately jerk them down and they go a couple more yards, it's not a penalty," Jones said. "It's the initial grab. That looked vague enough to me that we should just address it as a fine.</div>
yea i agree with Jones i mean they shouldnt get a 15 yarder for the wrong type of tackle let them play. A fine is good. not that it really matters for what these guys get paid they could "wipe their ass with that money"-moss does this rule apply if you grab the shoulders and pull down or jsut the neck then the pull down?
I was watching Fisrt and Ten on cold pizza and they were talking about this... Umm ya i think it should be banned cause how TO broke his leg or whatever and umm Jamal Lewis hert his leg when he was running away to the endzone in one of there games so i think it should get banned.
The NFL is just trying to protect the stars from getting hurt. It's the same thing with protecting the QB's. The NFL does not want to see another TO situation. The NFL desperately wanted to see Philadelphia win the Super Bowl last year after 3 NFC Champ games loses in a row. I guarentee you the NFL was shitting there pants when they saw that play last year. Now they approve of this rule. Players have always been getting injured from incedents like this since the games inception. Kind of interesting that they change a rule 6 months after TO got hurt. The NFL wants it's product in full swing, thus keeping the key players healthy thru rule changes.
