Has any one wondered how goalies stop 90% of the shots they face in a game on average but when it comes to the shootout they stop far less. For example, the Vancouver Chicago game last night the goalies stopped a combined 67 of 69 shots for a save percentage of .971, outstanding. So if you didn't see the game the goalies were the stars! How do they do it? Then came the shootout. They stopped 1 of 6 for a save percentage of .166 So. That gets we wondering. How good were the quality of the 67 shots they stopped during the game. How many of those shots were gifts for padding the save percentage stat? How many of those shots were never scoring chances like a shootout. What are they getting paid for? Stopping a perimeter shot that I could stop! Thoughts?
Are you really comparing a shootout to a game situation? You realize a shootout is a breakaway, count up the success rate goalies have on breakaways and it is around the same as a shootout, maybe a little less because of the pressure from the backcheck. On a shootout, the player has time to think up what he wants to do, take his time going in, and calmly try and fool the goalie 1 on 1. But welcome man.
Dude you don't get a lot of clean shots on net during a game let alone breakaways. Penalty shots are done by the best breakaway/scoring artists on both teams. In-game shots come from every player at every angle with bodies and sticks between the net and the goalie. If you took away all the shots that aren't on target, that are soft deflections, that are straight at the goalie, etc., there'd probably only 6-7 clean shots per game for each team and on average two to four of those are going in the net. Also, welcome to S2.
Thank you for the welcome! Very kind. But the bolded point you make is my point to the thread. So how good are these guys really? If they aren't stopping the quality chances than what are they doing in the game that say a Junior goalie couldn't do? Are they overrated and over paid if they are only stopping the non quality shots most of the game? How valuable are they really, in terms of the game itself. Doesn't that mean the defense and the defensive systems are far more crucial than the goalie especially (very important here) especially since all goalies are stopping around the same 90 to 91% of the shots anyways year in and year out! There are no super star goalies according to the save percent stat. There are 36 goalies that have played 200 plus games that have the same 91% save percentage that Brodeur has, over relatively the same career frame or period in time as Brodeur. So why do people think he is so good when there are 36 other goalies or his peers with the same save percentage as him, and dozens and dozens more with a 90% save percentage. Brodeur doesn't sound impressive to me! Maybe goalies are overrated and at least over paid? P.S. I am a goalie and a goalie instructor.
Shutout, you have to take in the fact that Luongo stopped two break aways from Hossa and I belove Skille had one himself. The goalies don't seem to try in shootouts at all, imo. Its more of a show for the fans. Goalies are very important, I don't think they are overrated at all.
Nah goalies try just as hard in shootouts. But on a penalty shot, the skater has no pressure at all, they can plan, come in calm, take their time, etc. On a breakaway they are at full speed, coming in from the angle given to them and have opponents hustling back and hassling them on the backcheck.
