hahahhahah 4th, i bet dave last another year due to he had a bad offseason issues that ruined the sseason
but....HE CAUSED ALL THE OFFSEASON ISSUS!!!! his choice of co-ordinators caused Ricky to retire.... his stupidity ran Marino off..... his personel moves have left the team so thin that Spielman had to make desperate trades..... they arent responding to him, he has to go
-ricky retired because he wanted to smoke and explore life -boston got hurt who was supposed to really help the offense -the loss of ricky and boston greatly snowballed i dont think he had to do with either decision
Ricky listed smoking as a reason to leave, but then said he would come back for more money and if Forster was fired and replaced with Trestman, it was Wannstedts decision to give the O-CO job to Forster who had never done it before, instead of Trestman who was the O-Co for the Raiders when they went to the Super Bowl with a noodle armed QB just like Fielder....Wanny brought it all on himself, its not as if Boston would ave made that much of a difference on this team, they would have sucked either way....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef)</div><div class='quotemain'>but....HE CAUSED ALL THE OFFSEASON ISSUS!!!! his choice of co-ordinators caused Ricky to retire.... his stupidity ran Marino off..... his personel moves have left the team so thin that Spielman had to make desperate trades..... they arent responding to him, he has to go</div> DW's is indirectly if not completely responsible for everything that is happening. His stupidity probably scared off Mueller as well. Spielman has made some decent trades. Booker is starting to come around & am sure Gordon would be doing okay provided he did not get injured & Miami had an OL. It all begins w/ the Center. McKinney is not the answer. Move St Clair back to his college position. McKinney moves to ORG and tadow the lines has improved w/ McIntosh & Carey on the edges of course. The only thing Dave did not cause is injuries
so managment will fire a guy cuz a player didnt like his move that he barely has control over? im not sayin he shouldbt be gone, im sayin the reason hes 0-5 is not all wannys fault
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Philly_Freak93)</div><div class='quotemain'>so managment will fire a guy cuz a player didnt like his move that he barely has control over? im not sayin he shouldbt be gone, im sayin the reason hes 0-5 is not all wannys fault</div> Regardless of what's happened in 2004, I believe Wanny had worn out his welcome in Miami a long time ago. This is just my interpretation of what I've seen the DWO talking about for a few years now, beginning back when we all used to post on that other site. I too, think that he sucks as a head coach. His decision to stick with Jay Fuddler this long is the one decision that stands out the most to me. If the head coach of my team was starting Fuddler, I'd probably have a paper bag collection in my house too. You see, 0-5 is just more fuel to a fire that had already been burning. Forget Rickey Williams or David Boston, the time for empathy has passed. Also, WHY NOT give Trestman a chance at OC? It can only help you guys.
Philly, the DWO has been giving reasons why "Teflon" Dave should be fired long before this season should ever have started, but I will try to answer your points again. 1. What responsibility does Wannstedt have regarding the running game? Spielman made the trade for Ricky Williams, but, at that time, Wannstedt was in charge of the Dolphins' roster. That means that he had to okay the trade. That also means that Wannstedt probably knew Ricky had failed a drug test. Knowing that his star running back had a substance abuse issue, he should have more actively pursued getting us more depth at RB. What about the offensive line? The line just keeps getting worse. They act as if they have no direction. I don't believe they're being coached. "Teflon" Dave is ultimately responsible for poor play of the offensive line. Period. If he needs to fire the OL coach, then he needs to do that, but I think the real problem is that "Teflon" Dave has no offensive system. He just goes with whatever the O.C. of the week has in his playbook. You want to see an offensive system, then go look at the Broncos running game. You won't see them crying because the number one guy gets hurt or quits. 2. Losing David Boston does hurt, but we weren't really going to see what he could do this year anyway. "Teflon" Dave still wanted to start Fiedler even though anyone with a modicum of football intelligence understands that Jay Fiedler shouldn't be a starting QB anywhere! Now, we're faced with playing Fiedler, a QB with no arm and no clue, or Feeley, who is brand new and trying to learn an offensive system while no getting killed behind an awful OL. (While I would like to see Rosenfelds get a some snaps, I'm not sure he would have much success behind our crappy OL either.) So, Boston, Chambers and Booker will have to hope and wait that Wannstedt gets fired and someone with a plan comes in a revives this offense. 3. Actually, this team has stuck together pretty good considering that they're head coach isn't a leader. The defense is still playing great football. The 0-5 record is really a testament to how much the offense really sucks. When you lack talent, you have to have coaching and Wannstedt is doing any coaching. He has no answers. He doesn't instill any confidence in his players. That's part of the reason they leave. Anyone seen Chidi Ahanatou? The Dolphins problems haven't occured overnight. The organization has no leadership, so when things go wrong, no one has a plan for keeping the ship from sinking. You never saw a Don Shula led Dolphins team dwelling at the bottom of the NFL. Even if he didn't have a lot of talent, he had a plan. Like Bum Phillips said, "He would take hisn team and beat yourn and he would take yourn team and beat hisn." We need that type of coach in Miami and we need him ASAP!
im not saying he doesnt deserve to be fired, he should but im saying its not all his fault they are 0-5
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'> "Teflon" Dave has no offensive system. Losing David Boston does hurt, but...Dave still wanted to start Fiedler even though ...Jay Fiedler shouldn't be a starting QB anywhere! Now, we're faced with playing Fiedler, a QB with no arm and no clue, ...Boston, Chambers and Booker will have to hope and wait that Wannstedt gets fired....head coach isn't a leader...He doesn't instill any confidence in his players. The Dolphins problems haven't occured overnight. The organization has no leadership,</div> What Dale Said!! Bottom line; the fish stinks from the head down. Of course, Dawk. Andy Reid has a plan and can adjust. AR has made relatively sound personnel decisions, & does inspire when the chips are down. So, I can see why you don't fully understand the Dwo's frustation w/ the vanilla flavored Teflon one.
