Norman Powell sign and trade

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  1. blazedanugz

    blazedanugz Well-Known Member

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    I feel like this is a real option this off-season.
    I believe we have his bird rights and can sign him for more than any other team. He will surely want the bag at this stage of his career. I can’t see him going to a shit team for more money though..
    Neil has said we have “4 of 5 starters under contract”.
    What are your guys thoughts on this? potential targets?
    Apologies if this is incorrect but I don’t think it is
     
  2. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    Depends on what they wanna do with CJ. I think one of those two will be gone. If Powell leaves, a sign and trade makes the most sense because the majority of the league will be over the cap.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Impossible. He's BYC. Means he counts for 10 million outgoing but whatever he signs for incoming. So if he signs for 20, we need to match salaries knowing that he only counts for 10 million outgoing for us.
     
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    Sucks cause norm is such the better option over CJ.
     
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    Difficult - yes, but not impossible.
    The constraints on the S&T with the fact that Portland will likely be in the tax make it such that the effort isn't worth the reward.
     
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    If they don't trade CJ, they likely lose Powell due to his contract status.

    So instead of Powell + whatever you can get for CJ, you would just run back CJ AND Powell would leave for nothing. #epicfail
     
  7. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    The constraints on the S&T and Portland being over the cap are what make it almost impossible.
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    why do I already think the team will suck this season?
     
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    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    We need to keep Norm.
     
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    KristinthBonkers McLovin, Nice!

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    Does Powell even want to be here, and does he even fit for the Blazers in any role?

    I don’t think he’ll be coming back unless CJ is traded and Olshey matches an offer and Norm starts at SG. I don’t want to see a 6’3” SF in the starting lineup again this year. Dame, CJ, and Powell are all 6’3” and under and it obviously doesn’t work defensively at all. Coaching can only do so much when 3/5 of your line-up are that short regardless of wing span.

    Somebody will pay him $20-22 million as a starting SG and he won’t have to try and defend much taller players because CJ and Dame are worse on defense. That’s too much to match for a 6th Man who isn’t a shot creator.

    I think he was a rental, didn’t work out, and it’s best for both parties if he moves to another team. He just doesn’t fit, didn’t really play that well here and his flaws as a SF would show even more in 2021-22. I like him in the correct role, but it isn’t as starting SF in Portland for me.
     
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    If Powell walks we have no money for a good replacement. For me there is only one way forward and this is to keep Norm since we can go over the cap to do that and trade CJ for a starting forward. To lose Powell for nothing and have someone like Derrick Jones starting next year I don't like it. And we have seen how much flawed is that Dame-CJ backcourt after so many years and so many failures together.
     
  12. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Because you have a defeatist mindset towards the team. I have that problem with finance. No matter how hard i try , i never get ahead. I let my mindset put me in a hole. I need to change that, you as well towards the Blazers.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Powell CAN, and does , create his own shot. He's one of the best penetrators on the team. He's a good 3 pt. threat, even though it left him, for the most part, during the Nuggets Series. He plays good defense, and plays much bigger than his 6-3 size would suggest. We need him IMO.
     
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    Agreed. But I don't think he re-signs unless the SG position is open for him.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    I agree.
     
  16. Wizard Mentor

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    This is a popular theory based on nothing.

    I'm NOT saying it's wrong, but it's just guesswork. Neither Powell nor his agent has said any such thing.

    However, I do agree that trading CJ maximizes our chances of resigning Powell.

    My theory, also based on nothing, is that the new coach improves our chances of resigning Powell.
     
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    That’s basically what I said, although I don’t think Powell fits with CJ on the roster and along with Dame the defense with those three starting was awful. Those three are too short to be a contender playing major minutes together. That was already proven against Denver.
     
  18. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Quick essentially voiced those same concerns about Norm..... heck, it didn't even sound like he thought he'd come back if CJ was gone.
     
  19. Wizard Mentor

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    sure, but Quick straight up said he didn't know, and hasn't talked to Norm - it was his "feeling".

    The sad truth for those of us with over 50 posts in the last 48 hours is that the next thing up is the draft, which isn't for a MONTH. Most trades won't happen until that time.
     
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    I agree but only if we can trade CJ or if one of them agrees to be a six man. I don't really want to see a three guard small ball line up next season. If we lose Powell for nothing next season that's not going to be a very good look for Neil.
     

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