Rocky Mountain News - With the Nuggets in need of shooting help, they are pursuing free agent forward Keith Van Horn, who has averaged 16 points-per-game in nine NBA seasons. Van Horn made $15.7 million in the final year of a max contract last season and discussions with the Nuggets are ongoing and nothing appears imminent.
I really hope this happens for Denver, Van Horn is a much better player than people give him credit for and I would love his shooting off the bench. Im not sure what we could offer though because of his huge contract. Maybe a 3 way involving Kenyon Martin is in the works? His salary is the only one whose comes close to KVH's, Unless we traded 2 players like any combination of Andre Miller, Ruben Patterson, OR Marcus Camby. I dont see that happening.
He's a has-been that really can't shoot that good anymore from what I saw of him last year. I hope he's no more than a third string back-up or I hope he won't get more than 10 minutes for you guys. He's only a vet. minimum player right now.
Yeah I agree. If Van Horn was ever that good those days are over with now. He was flat out horrible in last years playoffs.
I think he would be a good player for the Nuggets to pick up. They need a big man that can streach the floor. He would be a nice backup at the 3/4. He brings something to the table that the Nuggets don't really have right now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Van Horn made $15.7 million in the final year of a max contract last season and discussions with the Nuggets are ongoing and nothing appears imminent.</div> Sounds like a last resort, but he wouldn't be a bad pickup. I think mavsfan needs to realize, in limited minutes, Van Horn is not a bad player to have. Nugs have good bigs but it never hurts to add a big that can space the floor. It's not like Nugs are going to be depending on Van Horn.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jul 21 2006, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sounds like a last resort, but he wouldn't be a bad pickup. I think mavsfan needs to realize, in limited minutes, Van Horn is not a bad player to have. Nugs have good bigs but it never hurts to add a big that can space the floor. It's not like Nugs are going to be depending on Van Horn.</div>I agree he is a good role player. I think the Nuggets seem like a nice fit for him. I think his max contract preceded him and people put to high of expectations on a player of his caliber.
He would be a good sign. He can shoot, and score points off the bench. Those are two things that the Nuggets really need.
For anyone thinking he is a good role player did you watch the mavs/suns and mavs/heat series? I don't remember one game where he played well in both series.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Jul 22 2006, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>For anyone thinking he is a good role player did you watch the mavs/suns and mavs/heat series? I don't remember one game where he played well in both series.</div>I remember. The guy can't even shoot anymore. He is terrible. I got so mad at a Suns fan for mentioning us signing Van Horn this off-season. He's basically Tim Thomas but a much worse shooter and doesen't have the ability to throw it down like TT. :closedeyes: He was good with the Nets but he is finished now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>For anyone thinking he is a good role player did you watch the mavs/suns and mavs/heat series? I don't remember one game where he played well in both series.</div> For someone who defends Quis being played out of his realm under Avery, you can say the same thing for Van Horn. He was on the court setting picks and never got into rhythm after his injury. Sound familiar? Those two players suffered under Avery because they did not fit his style of play and were not played to their strengths. Bottom line, he's not done as a player and with another summer of recovery, I'm sure he can contribute for a team that definately that won't depend on him. Just like we made the Finals despite him.
For someone that gets credit for shooting he sure is a horrible shooter. lol. Van Horn didn't play well early this year before the injuries either. He's had like 2 great games all year and a bunch of games where he had to get yanked out by stinking up the joint. Van Horn is not a pure shooter and not a defender. He is a scorer and most of the time he lacks confidence so take that for what it's worth. What hurts him most is his lack of athleticism.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>For someone that gets credit for shooting he sure is a horrible shooter. lol. Van Horn didn't play well early this year before the injuries either.</div> On the contrary, one season doesn't all of a sudden take away your ability to make shots. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He's had like 2 great games all year and a bunch of games where he had to get yanked out by stinking up the joint.</div> Fabulous use of estimation, did you pull those numbers out of your ass? I can remember a good solid month Van Horn had for us this year, not just shooting wise, but contributing. He did enough this year, to allow Dirk rest and it paid off in the playoffs. Whatever though, because your not going to see any positive in Van Horn, your hatred is so biased towards him and Stack, it's ridiculous. For what he would get paid and for what Nugs want out of him, it's a bargain. Simple. Did I bash Daniels when he was traded to the Pacers? No, I wished him luck, unlike you, your just bashing away at Van Horn. It's just funny.
I'm bashing his game. You don't seem to know the difference. I have nothing against him except that he is a horrible player at the nba level that has been overrated. It isn't his fault but still not a good player to have in meaningful games. 1 gone so now all we need to do is trade Stackhouse for a solid backup SF.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I'm bashing his game. You don't seem to know the difference.</div> What is the difference? Your still bashing him as a player. Does his game not translate to him? One of the dumbest sentences I've read. If I was bashing about Daniels and his play. I would be bashing him, nuff said. Did I say you were bashing him off court wise? Obviously not. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I have nothing against him except that he is a horrible player at the nba level that has been overrated. It isn't his fault but still not a good player to have in meaningful games. 1 gone so now all we need to do is trade Stackhouse for a solid backup SF.</div> You insult his game, and who the hell is overrating him? Your acting like everyone all here are talking about a franchise player coming in, when their not. Again too funny. No one here has said anything that Van Horn can't do. They said he can come in and hit some shots and be a nice bench player. That is all. If that's overrating him, you overrate Daniels a ton. Also, I'm willing to bet Stackhouse is not traded, and will simply expire next year to make room for Howard's extension.
Daniels is overrated as well but at least he can be effective. Van Horn can hit some shots but then again he can be a complete liability in all facets of his game. Van Horn as a person seems like a nice guy but his nice attitude does not go well in the nba. You need toughness.
If he signs for the veterans minimum, I'm all for it. Maybe half the MLE, but that is it. I think Kleiza can be as good as Van Horn, if not better. Kleiza is a better athlete, he just needs to work on his shot a bit more.But at least KVH is proven. At the end I think it will come down to Reggie Evans or KVH. To totally different players, but I'm not sure both will be on the team together and I can't decide which one I'd rather have.
I would definetly take Evans. I hope the Nuggets sign KVH and let Evens go because I'd love him in a Suns jersey.
Van Horn is a shooter that can spread the floor with his perimeter shooting. He also has a decent post up game and can grab some boards. If Denver nabbs him it would be a great offseason steal.
