Nurk extension?

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    As far as I understand, he is extension eligible right now at a maximum 4 yr, ~65 mil contract.

    Considering Rich Paul's history with other clients, he probably is going to advise Nurk to wait even if we offered him a deal. Also, I don't see our FO beating down the doors to get him this kinda $ given the current market for centers who can't shoot.

    But I think there might be some value to locking him down earlier and not let him go to UFA next summer when all we have on the books will be Dame/CJ/Powell.

    How high would you go?

    Here are other UFA who might potentially be available next summer:
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  2. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I doubt he'd get much more than 15-17 per year. His health, and his softness hasn't done him any favors. It might change with this season, but it also might be a(nother) season where he misses a big chunk of games.
     
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    I wouldn’t give him more than 2 or 3 years
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I think 15-17 is a stretch. He's currently the 14th highest paid C at 12 mil. I don't really see him as being too much higher than 10 if you rank all the Cs by talent or impact. There are outliers like Jarrett Allen, but he was a RFA and CLE was stupid/desperate.

    I would throw him a 4yr/50 mil deal filled with options and incentives for staying healthy to see if he bites. Worst case scenario, his contract is tradeable if we part ways with Dame down the road

    I'm kinda worried about the slim pickings in FA next year. Hard to see where we can get a C upgrade for Nurk outside of a trade. And we don't even have Collins waiting in the wings now.
     
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    Maybe extend him for 4 years at 12 million. But if he wants more $$ I would wait to see how he plays this year. Can he last a full year without getting hurt?
     
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    I'd offer him 45/3 or 56/4. Final year TO on both.
     
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    The Blazers would be smart to at least be in discussions for a new deal. But the Blazers need protections in place as well. in any new deal.
     
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    I wouldn't offer him 15-17, but I'd wait to see what he gets knowing full well I'd peak at about 13 for him. His health is just too much of a question.
     
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    I'd lock Nurk up like we did Norm...get a discount for that 4th year ...you can always trade a contract like that if it's not too huge...I consider Nurk a core piece and keeping him would be the smart move
     
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    What is the timeline for offering him an extension? Having flexibility if a trade is still on the table is pretty important right now, so that's definitely a factor. Somewhere between 12-15 is probably a reasonable place to start though.
     
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    Rich Paul is anti small market.

    Id bet Nurk signs a short-term deal and bounces.
     
  12. illmatic99

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    Since he's on the final year of his contract, there is no deadline per se-- he can get an extension anytime before season's end. If he had more years left, the deadline would be the start of the reg. season (OCT 19).

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    Awesome. I wouldn't be in a huge rush then. Just tell Nurk that we heard what he said about being here if Dame is here.
     
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    If this is the case, it's reasonable to wait until the trade deadline - since his short term deal on a reasonable contract can be a great trade chip if a real opportunity comes.
     
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    all of you are looking at this from portland trail blazers perspective (which is understandable), but nurk absolutely has no incentive to sign contract extension, unless its 20+ per year (which would be tough to pass on), otherwise he will just play out the season and hope that he has great one and therefore gets that 20+ per year offer... nurk can afford to bet on himself and those offers youre suggesting (12-15 per year), nurk can get them any time and he doesnt need to improve at all

    his current contract is 12 per year and one can see why it would be idiotic to sign 12-15 per year contract extension, when he can bet on himself and in a contract season and with chauncey billups, its a very smart move

    also, you cant give powell 20 per year and give nurk 12-15 per year, when powell isnt better than nurk, neither is he more impactful than nurk, its common sense
     
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    2018-2019 Nurk, sure. All other years, Powell has at least as good or higher VORP than Nurk. The problem with Nurk was, so far, availability. In 6 years Powell has played more games than Nurk did in 8. I can understand why Nurk will expect a contract in the $20m/year range and I can understand why the Blazers have no incentive to commit to this - that early.
     
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    the thing here is this: nurk can afford to bet on himself, because like i said, he can get 12-15 per year anytime and it would be foolish to sign contract extension like that, while the blazers cant really afford to let nurk hit the free agency (especially if he has a great season) as he would become unrestricted free agent, meaning blazers would have no control over the situation and anything can happen in free agency

    blazers have no reason to give nurk 20 per year right now, they can offer him lets say 17 per year mid season and hope that nurk signs it and is not willing to bet on himself, but then we have to be realistic, what are the chances that nurk (barring season ending injury) doesnt get 17 per year from some other team in free agency... my guess is that the blazers will offer him something like that and hope he signs it, but if he doesnt, they will raise the offer to prevent him entering free agency or will raise the offer in free agency... a lot of it will depend on how nurk plays the season, if he has a great one, hes gonna get 20+ per year
     
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    Smart move by the Blazers would be to extend asap.
    Smart move by Nurk would be to wait.
     
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    Given nurks injury history, I dont think he would completely dismiss a 50 mil extension.

    And centers dont get paid in today's nba. Wings and guards do. Richaun Holmes is a reasonable comp to Nurk and check out what he got this summer as a UFA. Serviceable starters get around 10-12 mil.
     
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    he absolutely would

    thats 2 mil more than his current contract and nurk is better player than three years ago and he would be even better had he not missed season and a half on leg & wrist brakes

    that slowed him down, but im pretty sure, if healthy this season, hell build up on 2018/2019 season... hes fully healthy, chauncey billups is high on him, contract season, hes gonna breakout this season
     

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