Obama a Socialist? Fox News Exec Said So, but Didn't Believe It

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  1. MrJayremmie

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    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-...-fox-news-exec-said-so-but-didnt-believe-it/#

    Bill Sammon, who’s responsible for the network’s Washington coverage, linked Obama to socialism many times during the 2008 campaign, but didn’t believe the allegation, he acknowledged.

    Trying to influence public opinion, eh? Unfortunately, this works on the uneducated and closed minded.
     
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    Fox news blatantly lying again? I'm shocked. Fox has been exposed time and time again as a station that tries to influence public opinion on whatever position they want to push or want to pull down. Of course this is done by pretty much every station that isn't c-span atm but Fox just takes it to an extreme that the others do not (well MSNBC is up there but there second to Fox).
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Obama and the colonial powers have instigated a failed revolution against Libya for being socialist. No other reason, not humanitarianism. They provoked Libya to put it down, to give them justification to attack. (Khadaffi is a socialist because he nationalized oil fields to internalize profits, and prevent profits from escaping to Europe.)

    Obama is no socialist. And Fox wants you to be amused at its being a liar network.
     
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    Nah, Obama's no socialist. It's just a coincidence that he belonged to a church in Chicago for over 20 years that supports a form of marxism called Black Liberation Theology. It's also just a coincidence that he is friends with Bill Ayers, an avowed marxist, and that he has vowed to "spread the wealth around." All pure coincidence.
     
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    Glad we agree. All pure coincidence.

    Most of my friends are Republicans, and I have attended many different churches of different religions.

    I am not Republican, and I am an atheist.
     
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    Looks like Sammon was slow on the uptake. People like me knew Obama was a Socialist long before he took over GM.

    At least Sammon was proven right...

    Huge story. Didn't David Brock just state that Soros-funded Media Matters was declaring war on Fox News?
     
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    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

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    I thought he was a Nazi-Socialist Kenyan-Indonesian?
     
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    I'm sorry, that is incorrect. You forgot Muslim and Terrorist.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    At some point, you have to call a spade a spade. Our current president has a more expansive view of the role of the Federal Government than any Chief Executive before him. It speaks volumes that he can't speak directly as to his end goals. He doesn't because he knows they're minority positions.
     
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    Racist.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    If he's more expansive than Bush, why did Bush go into war refusing to have allies, while Obama has carefully limited the government's role (and thus spending)? And Bush expanded the government to take away long-cherished rights.

    As for not giving goals, would you rather he keep flip-flopping on the goal as Bush did with Iraq? He's not giving goals because goals will be determined as a group by NATO powers.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Why do you have to bring up Bush? I didn't bring him up. It speaks volumes you can't build a defense of Obama without bringing up his predecesor. As for the other errors in your post, they're irrelevant as you can't even provide a decent response to my point.
     
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    Obama has not taken away our personal freedoms in the way Bush did. Obama did not expand government with the likes of Homeland Security. Obama went into a fight with allies egging us on to help and the UN giving the resolution for a no-fly zone, while Bush said Fuck You and went into Iraq for no reason. If anything, Bush is a socialist, IMO.

    The patriot act reminds me of Orwell's 1984.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Once again, no one can discuss how the Obama Administration has radically shifted this country to the left (increasing the size of government by 24% in two short years, taking over the country's largest auto company and 1/6th of the US economy with ObamaCare), without saying "Oh, yeah? What about Bush?"

    BTW, the Patriot Act was upheld by this Administration and a Democratic Congress. It seems to me to be pretty bi-partisan.

    P.S. Since the mistake was made twice, I'll now have to correct it. The coalition that went into Iraq was larger than the one that went into Libya and had 17 UN resolutions behind it, instead of the one that gave rise to trigger military action in Libya.
     
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    1) You must not know what "socialist" means
    2) Saying that Bush made mistakes doesn't show that Obama isn't more socialist.

    Yeah, you're right. Except they aren't very similar.
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_and_the_Iraq_War

     
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    So I'm guessing you haven't read 1984? Hell, search patriot act 1984 on google. Don't play dumb.
     
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    The problem is you cannot believe anything Maxiep says without seeing him equally criticize both sides. All i see in his posts are pure partisan bias. Similar to yours.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    BTW, I love the root post. It's based on Media Matters taking off its mask and admitting that it's undertaking "guerrilla war" on FOX News. Hysterical.
     
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    If you think Obama is a leftist, you are sorely mistaken. He has taken the country more to the left, but it is debatable if this country is even left leaning right now. Most would say it is still center right.

    And the Libyan Mission, Obamacare mandate, and renewal of the patriot act were all huge failures by Obama. I'm not defending them. But if we are talking government expansion, nobody expanded government like Bush.

    As much as I am anti-government, I do support the GM takeover and sell back. It was simply the right thing to do, and looks to be turning out very well.
     

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