Does the change in the CBA affect max QO's now? When I was pushing for Oden to get a max QO that would keep him here, it was for 6yrs/110+M. But with the new limits a max QO would seem to be 5yr/83M. Probably still too high with the new tax structure to even gamble on, insurance or not. But if I'm reading the new CBA correctly the most a team can offer him right now is 4/61.9M (starting at 25% of the 58M cap, 4 yrs, 4.5% raises). That changes the calculus somewhat. While I'm sure the answer to this is based heavily on whether Oden is a "bust" or a "high upside guy about to come back" guy to you, would you match an offer from, say, Indy for 4/61.9M? If not, what's the floor that you'd keep Oden at?
I think the math's the same, then. We can offer him 5/83.3 (5 years, starting at 25% of 58M cap--14.5M--and adding 7.5% raises), while everyone else can offer him 4/61.9 (4yrs, 25% of 58M, 4.5% raises).
why would the Blazers even consider offering him the MAX or anywhere close to it? that's simply crazy given his injury history and IMO would not happen - no way no how, if someone team is that dumb to offer him 12 mil a yr or so a yr then adios Greg, it was sorta nice knowin ya
If I'm a conference rival, I would seriously consider offering Oden the max 4/61.9, knowing full well that Portland is so committed to riding this one out, they have no choice but to match an offer in that range. But by doing so, Portland seriously handcuffs itself for future salary cap flexibility, and doubly so if Oden doesn't bounce back from the string of injuries. Of course, there's the risk of Portland's absentee GM calling your bluff and you're suddenly "stuck" with Oden, but I highly doubt that would happen.
I don't think so. The only chance Portland has of saving face with the Oden vs. Durant debate is getting some value out of Oden like with Bowie/Buck. Even if that means foolishly sticking with Oden, they simply can't afford to let him flourish elsewhere for nothing in return.
Maybe. But couldn't another team just Amnesty Oden if he continues to be injured all of the time? If I'm a conference rival that is not already using the Amnesty on someone else, it might be worth a gamble to force Portland's hand.
Maybe theres a way to give him that contract but only have 28M of it guaranteed, the others just bonuses.
With Oden, I could see Utah pulling a "Millsap" on the Blazers for a little payback. The fanbase would actually love the idea of getting him even if it's a huge risk.
however, I really doubt they would take that risk, supposedly they are planning to be very frugal this year
I live in Utah (wife is from here) and I can tell you Jazz fans are dying for some kind of "star" acquisition. I know Oden's proven nothing, but I could see the fans embracing the idea as the 'owners being committed to winning' because of the 'potential'. I think they'd be ok with it either way, believe it or not.
Utah has 8 players under contract for $57 mil. They have to sign 4 more guys and stay under the cap. They can't offer Oden enough to hurt Portlands will to match.
i hear ya, but dude mehmet (likely amnestied, but expiring anyways) favors kanter al jeff milsap sure they could use a greg oden type, who couldnt? but they already have a severe logjam going down
I think they'd gladly roll the dice on an impact big. I know I would if I had that big man situation. Al Jeff, ugh.
