<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The trouble here is finding a deal that would suit both sides. It?s hard to imagine Lakers coach Phil Jackson endorsing Odom for the No. 2 pick, since he?s looking to make quick progress. The Lakers could gain around $10 million in cap room for 2007 from that deal. Perhaps the Lakers feel Tyson Chandler could improve their interior defense. Chandler, Chris Duhon and the No. 16 pick for Odom is an idea, though Chandler has more money left on his contract than Odom?s $40.6 million over three years. </div> link: http://www.clublakers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=53334
It won't happen. That's not enough for Odom. Chandler? He's worse than Kwame. Duhon? Love him but his back might not hold up. The 16 is not enough for Lamar. A deal with Chicago must involve the 16, Nocioni, and Duhon.
if they do thaat i dont see the lakers even making the playoffs..kobe would need to average 50 a game..
I agree. Duhon, Kobe, Walton, Chandler, Kwame would be the worst starting lineup in the league. I wouldn't settle for anything less than Duhon, Nocioni, the 16th, and Chandler. Duhon, Kobe, Nocioni, Chandler, kwame. That's one hell of a defensive unit.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Brian:</div><div class="quote_post">only way i would make the trade is if hinrich was involved</div> That's also another option. To get Odom, the Bulls would have to give up Hinrich or Gordon. I completely forgot about them two. I'd settle for Hinrich, Chandler, and the 16 for Odom. Or you could substitute Gordon with Hinrich.
You guys, Odom isn't that great. He is one of the biggest underachievers in the league. Chandler is becoming a solid C that is a great rebounder and good defender. Heinrich might be on the brink of becoming an all-star (something that Odom is not) and the 16th pick would get you guys a quality guy. I would never do this if i were Chicago. Why would they want odom's huge contract and lose their best guard and best post plus the 16th pick??
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">You guys, Odom isn't that great. He is one of the biggest underachievers in the league. Chandler is becoming a solid C that is a great rebounder and good defender. Heinrich might be on the brink of becoming an all-star (something that Odom is not) and the 16th pick would get you guys a quality guy. I would never do this if i were Chicago. Why would they want odom's huge contract and lose their best guard and best post plus the 16th pick??</div> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
UHH chandler proving center?right..that trade works a lot better with one of those guards.hinrich is the best pick..imagine a line up of Kirk Hinrich Kobe Bryant Luke Walton Kwame Brown Tyson chandler i mean thats better and we can maybe trade our pick and the bulls pick for a hire pick and get a good forward.
^ that is a lottery starting lineup IMO. Odom may be an underachiever but he is a better offensive player than Hinrich. Hinrich would also be a liability on the defensive end, as well as Walton. We would have a pretty damn good front line defense, but those two would produce one of the worst offensive front courts, if not the most unproductive front court in the league. The offense would be relying on the back court too much, especially Kobe. Hinrich is also due for a big contract extension and Chandler is already an overpaid player as well as being very injury prone. Even if we were to get Gordon instead of Hinrich, I wouldn't make this trade.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">^ that is a lottery starting lineup IMO. Odom may be an underachiever but he is a better offensive player than Hinrich. Hinrich would also be a liability on the defensive end, as well as Walton. We would have a pretty damn good front line defense, but those two would produce one of the worst offensive front courts, if not the most unproductive front court in the league. The offense would be relying on the back court too much, especially Kobe. Hinrich is also due for a big contract extension and Chandler is already an overpaid player as well as being very injury prone. Even if we were to get Gordon instead of Hinrich, I wouldn't make this trade.</div> Agreed, no way the Lakers make this trade. Kobe saw enough defensive pressure last season, having no legit post threat would make it even easier for defenses to zero in on him. Odom will be a lot more effective next season moving back to PF and becoming the primary post player in the Triangle. He said he's going to spend all summer learning how to finish with his right hand and improve his mid range game. If he can accomplish both, he'll be a tough matchup and be a lot more confident and consistent. I'd be willing to do this deal if the Bulls gave us Deng or Noc, plus Hinrich.
I would love to see Deng, Hinrich and the 16th pick all wearing yellow. I mean, with the 16th pick the Lakers could try and take a stab at Patrick O'Bryant. Your 2006-2007 Los Angeles Lakers: PG- Kirk Hinrrrrrrrrrrrich SG- Kobe 24K Gold Bryant!!!! SF- Luol Denggggggggg PF- KwaKwaKwaKwame Brown C- Patrick OOOOOO'Bryant!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">^^^^^^What!?</div> I was showing that I agree with you.
This trade should only happen if we get hinrich, nocioni and the Knicks pick they traded to the bulls. I don't want Lamar to go, I can't wait for next year and predict between 50-60 wins. Yeah, you heard me right. The Lakers lost about 7 games this year on botched plays and stupid mistakes, thats not to mention the last second shots that didn't fall. With this core group having 2 years of experience playing together, I'm looking for a real cohesive unit next year
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">I was showing that I agree with you.</div> OOOO good. i thought your were calling me stupid or something
Hmm... Let me get this straight, when we talk about Kobe's supporting cast Odom isn't good, but you guys still expect a superstar type deal for him? Hinrich/Chandler and the 16th pick? Do you guys realize that Hinrich put up 20.5 pts and near 8 apg in the playoffs and 16 pts 6 assists during the season? Oh and he's only 25. Plus Chandler who is an underachiever but still a quality defensive presence AND the 16th pick? Even with Gordan the trade wouldn't be fair for the Bulls. You guys need to look at both sides of the deal before you say a crazy deal. This is just like the trade for the #4 pick. Please go in the Bulls forum and post if they would do Hinrich/Chandler/16 for Odom, they will laugh you off the forum.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">Hmm... Let me get this straight, when we talk about Kobe's supporting cast Odom isn't good, but you guys still expect a superstar type deal for him? Hinrich/Chandler and the 16th pick? Do you guys realize that Hinrich put up 20.5 pts and near 8 apg in the playoffs and 16 pts 6 assists during the season? Oh and he's only 25. Plus Chandler who is an underachiever but still a quality defensive presence AND the 16th pick? Even with Gordan the trade wouldn't be fair for the Bulls. You guys need to look at both sides of the deal before you say a crazy deal. This is just like the trade for the #4 pick. Please go in the Bulls forum and post if they would do Hinrich/Chandler/16 for Odom, they will laugh you off the forum.</div> Hinrich for Odom straight up would be questionable, let alone throwing in the 16th pick and Chandler. As much of a bust as Chandler might be, he's still a terrific rebounder and defender, and just a year ago was a young man with a bright future. How old is he now? 24? You guys are seriously overrating Odom. I may not watch the Lakers much but Nocioni and the 16th as a package could fetch better than Odom, not to mention you get Chandler too. That's pretty much the reason most of these Laker fan rumors never materialize: they always overrate their players and spawn unrealistic ideas.
