Politics Official 2024 Presidential Election Thread

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Who will "Win?"

  1. Harris

    78.6%
  2. Trump

    21.4%
  1. riverman

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    He commuted 1500 sentences so I'm guessing there are hundreds like this one if not more that I'd disagree with. Biden is a hawk, a guy with old ties to arms dealers and international lobbyists. A career politician. It's why they ran him against Trump twice...he's the most right wing Dem they had available. Joe knows all the smoke screens of public office. He was clearly only ever going to be the lesser of two evils in a presidential race and nobody I know crowned him the king of morality. He definitely morphed over his career on many topics of controversy. Like half the country I'd love to have a candidate to actually vote for that had a chance to win. I'll just probably remain in the political minority for the rest of my lifetime.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    This is an interesting take on the meaning / cause of the election results.

    barfo
     
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    Trump's cabinet isn't going to staff itself.
     
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    I think it's pretty safe to say that most of the people serving time in prison committed crimes. It's called commuting sentences for a reason. You have 1500 of these to investigate but really, what's the point? We just saw a guy with 34 felony convictions get elected president.
     
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    I think taking money to commute sentences should be a crime. Trump does it. Biden does it. Both criminals. One of them enabled a genocide. Both garbage people. People who try to hold up their guy as a beacon of morality are kidding themselves.
     
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    No politician is a beacon of morality but I've seen no proof of pay for play pardons from the current administration and although Biden profited from arming Israel...Netanyahu is the evil culprit behind the Palestinian genocide, let's not let that become a false equivalency. Biden did fuel the fire with arms but he's not the person who is carrying out genocide in Gaza...that's on Israeli leadership. It's a terrible situation for Palestinians but Hamas also holds a lot of responsibility for triggering the reaction they got. Nobody on the planet should kill innocent civilians...not Hamas, not Israel. I think Israel is guilty of crimes against humanity and should be held accountable. Trump wants to wipe Palestinians off the earth...Biden played both sides against the middle trying to get American hostages freed. After that he sent aid to the region and asked for a cease fire....Netanyahu refused the ceasefire..
     
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    Both Obama and Bush 1 were able to make Bibi bend to their well. He got out of line and they threatened pulling funds. And guess what? He listened. Sending aid was a ruse used to placate his base. Did you see the photo op a week ago of him holding a book that pertained to the Palestinian struggle? These are actors. Don't fall for that. He's as a garbage person as the next guy. Let's just hope the next guy is better in terms of results.
     
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    Bibi wasn't fearful of being removed from power at the time (or losing his freedom). By the time Biden took over Bibi had lost the support of the people and had actually been ousted... only to somehow hold onto power?

    He needs war to stay out of prison now. He didn't need that before.
     
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    Feels lately like a lot of forces (military and commercial) are acting like the end game is here and so are grabbing as much for themselves as they can before the plug gets pulled on them. More intense, nakedly cruel, because all else of value has been taken already… scavengers are picking cleab the skeleton of better days.
     
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    Hopefully it means the NHI are here. For better or worse. I'm ready for a change.
     
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    I have a brain, so I can make common sense determinations.
     
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    Outright admitting it.
     
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    Holy shit. Why on earth would we say that? Just say he's smart at computers... let us ASSUME you mean vote counting machines. But to outright say it is wild. But he feels invincible and insulated so he just doesn't care anymore.

    Remember, if you voted t*ump... as this shit goes sideways and it starts affecting you and the ones you "love", know that this is your fault. And i will never not tell you how you ruined everything for the people you "love". It is your fault.
     
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    Dang.

    ES&S sounds shady

    Is it true no counties flipping for Dems never happens? Happened here. 88 flipped for Republicans, none for Dems. Could that be all due to the candidate?
     
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    This is super silly actually. We should have a large database which has everybody's votes tallied.

    And every voter should get an official record of that vote to keep (mail in voters should be encouraged to just take a picture or scan their ballot).

    And they should be able to look up their actual ballot counts and verify that it was counted according to their copy.

    This is not that difficult of a problem to solve in the future if we actually want to solve it.
     
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