Official: JBB 2005 NBA Mock Draft Rnd 2 (v1.0)

Shapecity · Mar 23, 2005

Official: JBB 2005 NBA Mock Draft Rnd 2

31. LAL <font color="blue">Juan Mendez</font> 6'8 :: 245 :: PF :: Niagra :: SR

32. LAC (from CHA) <font color="blue">Julius Hodge</font> 6'6 :: 210 :: SG/SF :: NC State :: SR

33. NO <font color="blue">Anthony Roberson </font> 6'1 :: 180 :: PG :: Florida :: JR

34. GS (could go to PHX) <font color="blue">Angelo Gigli </font> 6'10 :: 220 :: SF/PF :: INT

35. UTAH (could go to ORL) <font color="blue">Alan Anderson</font> 6'6 :: 230 :: SG :: Michigan St. :: SR

36. POR <font color="blue">Dijon Thompson </font> 6'8 :: 209 :: SG :: UCLA :: SR

37. MIL <font color="blue">Jason Maxiell</font> 6'7 :: 240 :: PF :: Cincinnati :: SR

38. ATL (from NYK) <font color="blue">David Lee</font> 6'9 :: 240 :: PF :: Florida :: SR

39. TOR <font color="blue">Chris Thomas</font> 6'1 :: 190 :: PG :: Notre Dame :: SR

40. NJ <font color="blue">Vladimir Veremeenko</font> 6'10 :: 235 :: PF :: INT

41. LAC (could go to NJ) <font color="blue">Louis Williams </font> 6'2 :: 175 :: SG :: HS

42. IND <font color="blue">Jawad Williams</font> 6'8 :: 218 :: SF :: North Carolina :: SR

43. PHI(could go to DET) <font color="blue">Daniel Ewing</font> 6'3 :: 180 :: PG/SG :: Duke :: SR

44. MIN <font color="blue">Taylor Coppenrath</font> 6'9 :: 250 :: PF :: Vermont :: SR

45. LAL <font color="blue">Lawrence Roberts</font> 6'9 :: 233 :: PF :: Miss St. :: SR

46. DEN (could go to DAL) <font color="blue">Kosta Perovic</font> 7'2 :: 242 :: C :: INT

47. BOS <font color="blue">Ryan Gomes</font> 6'8 :: 248 :: Providence :: SF :: SR

48. UTA (from CHI) <font color="blue">Luther Head</font> 6'3 :: 185 :: PG/SG :: Illinois :: SR

49. ORL (could go to PHI) <font color="blue">Sharrod Ford</font> 6'9 :: 230 :: PF :: Clemson :: SR

50. ORL (from CLE) <font color="blue">Sean Banks</font> 6'8 :: 206 :: SF :: Memphis :: SO

51. SEA (from MEM) <font color="blue">Micah Downs </font> 6'8 :: 192 :: SF/PF :: HS

52. WAS <font color="blue">Nana (Pops) Mensah-Bonsu</font> 6'9 :: 240 :: PF :: Geo. Washington :: JR

53. HOU (could go to NY) <font color="blue">Omar Thomas </font> 6'5 :: 205 :: SF :: UTEP :: SR

54. BOS (from SAC) <font color="blue">Keith Langford</font> 6'4 :: 215 :: SG :: Kansas :: SR

55. DET <font color="blue">Kelvin Torbert</font> 6'4 :: 218 :: SG :: Michigan St. :: SR

56. PHX (from DAL) <font color="blue">Travis Diener</font> 6'1 :: 175 :: PG :: Marquette :: SR

57. SEA <font color="blue">Chuck Hayes</font> 6'6 :: 242 :: SF :: Kentucky :: SR

58. TOR (from MIA) <font color="blue">Stefano Mancinelli</font> 6'8 :: 216 :: SF :: INT

59. UTA (from PHX) <font color="blue">Jared Homan</font> 6'10 :: 250 :: C :: Iowa St. :: SR

60. ATL (from SA) <font color="blue">Aaron Miles</font> 6'1 :: 175 :: PG :: Kansas :: SR

Trip · Mar 23, 2005

Very interesting mock. I see two high school seniors, Louis Williams and Micah Downs, being penned in the second round. If they were really going to be picked that low, wouldn't they pull out of the draft? I'd also see guys like David Lee, Aaron Miles, Jawad Williams, and Julius Hodge move up after their workouts.

Shapecity · Mar 23, 2005

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">Very interesting mock. I see two high school seniors, Louis Williams and Micah Downs, being penned in the second round. If they were really going to be picked that low, wouldn't they pull out of the draft? I'd also see guys like David Lee, Aaron Miles, Jawad Williams, and Julius Hodge move up after their workouts.</div>Great point on the high schoolers. A lot of their decisions (and ours) will be effected by the new CBA. If an age limit is imposed, we could see an influx of high schoolers declaring for this draft because they don't want to play college ball or they don't have the grades to play college ball. We also ranked them low, because we wanted to see how they do in the McDonald's All American High School contest before getting a better feel for where to place them.

As for the college players you mentioned, those workouts are going to make and break a lot of players. The second round was very tough, because of all the scenarios that could go down and the amount of depth in this year's draft group. You could almost flip our order around and still have a solid draft.

KICKSDADDY613 · Mar 23, 2005

Good Mock Round 2. My Input Is This. Julius Hodge Is Very Quickly Flying Himself Back In The Hearts Of Scouts And Is Stamping His Place Into Round 1. The Hs Kids, Yes, Of Course, Had Better Drop Out, But You Never Can Tell, Some Seem To Get Dumber By The Year. I Feel In My Heart, Players Like Roberts, Thomas, Lee, Thompson, Gomes Are Really Gonna Make Gm's Kick Themselves In The Future. So Much Is Being Placed On Potential And International Players (even In Most Cases Hs Kids) That Kids Like That Are Now Bumped To Cheap 2nd Round Players After Having Solid Productive 4 Years. Kids Like Roberts Who Rectified His Career And Life, Thomas Is Notre Dames All Time Leader In Assists And Steals And 3rd In Scoring. Lee Was Misused For 4 Years And It Limited His Ability, Gomes Was A Killer With No One Around Him. And Thompson Has Gotten Better And Better Each Year. This Is Going To Become A Year Of Steals, And The Cba And The International Crop This Year Are Making It That Way.

Courtking · Mar 23, 2005

I agree with Trip on this one with the high schoolers, after what happened to Jackie Butler last year I think the high schools want to be 100% sure that they are a first round pick. Louis Williams appears to have a great career ahead of him, people are already comparing him to Allen Iverson and I don't think he should risk that by getting pick in the second round.

Also Sean Banks, he also should be a guy that wants to be 100% sure they will be a first round pick. Banks is a guy who could go in the mid to late first round if he stays in school and develops his game a little bit. He should stay in school another year, work on his game, and come out being sure that he will be a first round pick.

There are a lot of players in the second round mock draft that are in the same boat as Williams and Banks that they can stay in school (or go to school in William's case), develop, and become a first round pick.

Shapecity · Mar 23, 2005

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KICKSDADDY613:</div><div class="quote_post">Good Mock Round 2. My Input Is This. Julius Hodge Is Very Quickly Flying Himself Back In The Hearts Of Scouts And Is Stamping His Place Into Round 1. The Hs Kids, Yes, Of Course, Had Better Drop Out, But You Never Can Tell, Some Seem To Get Dumber By The Year. I Feel In My Heart, Players Like Roberts, Thomas, Lee, Thompson, Gomes Are Really Gonna Make Gm's Kick Themselves In The Future. So Much Is Being Placed On Potential And International Players (even In Most Cases Hs Kids) That Kids Like That Are Now Bumped To Cheap 2nd Round Players After Having Solid Productive 4 Years. Kids Like Roberts Who Rectified His Career And Life, Thomas Is Notre Dames All Time Leader In Assists And Steals And 3rd In Scoring. Lee Was Misused For 4 Years And It Limited His Ability, Gomes Was A Killer With No One Around Him. And Thompson Has Gotten Better And Better Each Year. This Is Going To Become A Year Of Steals, And The Cba And The International Crop This Year Are Making It That Way.</div>
Julius Hodge is definitely on the rise. The guy just needs to add some meat to his body and watch out for getting nailed in the family jewels.

We agree 100% a lot of these 4 year players can actually play RIGHT NOW and help a team over the hump. All too, often these players get overlooked by players with "potential" or "upside," but when all is said and done, the quality players turn out to be the better choice. We like Lawrence Roberts a lot, he always puts himself in position to rebound the ball. He's relentless on the glass, and something he does very well is outlet passing. He doesn't jump as high, shoot as well, or dribble like any euro baller or highschooler, but Roberts will bang inside for you and be a workhorse for any team.

I also like Chris Thomas from Notre Dame. He's actually dropped off a lot of mocks which is puzzling. He's the prototypical PG a team needs. He's fundamentally sound, and knows how to pick his spots on offense. His game reminds me a lot of Tony Parker. Once Chris Thomas is surrounded by talented NBA players, he's going to really shine in the league as a floor leader. The knock on him is his tendancy to force the issue, but at Notre Dame he was put in a position to have to score more. In the NBA he won't have to worry about that.

Lee is a gamer and is finally getting recognized by his tourney play.

Gomes was some what disappointing this year. We think his draft stock will drop because he will be labeled as a "tweener." Gomes knows how to score and is a load to deal with, but will he have the speed to compete at the pro level and can he defend well enough to stay on the court?

Shapecity · Mar 23, 2005

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtKing:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree with Trip on this one with the high schoolers, after what happened to Jackie Butler last year I think the high schools want to be 100% sure that they are a first round pick. Louis Williams appears to have a great career ahead of him, people are already comparing him to Allen Iverson and I don't think he should risk that by getting pick in the second round.

Also Sean Banks, he also should be a guy that wants to be 100% sure they will be a first round pick. Banks is a guy who could go in the mid to late first round if he stays in school and develops his game a little bit. He should stay in school another year, work on his game, and come out being sure that he will be a first round pick.

There are a lot of players in the second round mock draft that are in the same boat as Williams and Banks that they can stay in school (or go to school in William's case), develop, and become a first round pick.</div>
What they want and what they are told doesn't always come to fruition. A team might promise to take them in the 1st round, but then end up trading out of that spot. A lot of last minute scenarios could arise from the time a player declares and expects to go somewhere, then what happens on draft day. Jackie Butler, Omar Cooke, and DeAngelo Collins can all testify to that. The new CBA could also limit their choice to declare early or not. If the age limit is set at 20, then these Highschoolers with NBA aspirations might come out early and take a gamble on draftday.

Voodoo Child · Mar 23, 2005

These High School kids always get surrounded by the wrong group of people. I'm sure that Louis Williams has been surrounded by many people who have told him that he's a lottery pick, even though the best he'll do is probably in the 20's. However, the sad truth of it all is that he'll players like Williams have been known to make the early leap. We all thought that DeAngello Collins, James Lang, and Lenny Cooke were crazy after they jumped. We all knew that they were projected in the second round or to not be drafted at all. However, they had other things on their minds and were probably told they'd be first rounders by various people. Besides, like Shapecity pointed out, there is a lot of speculation over the possibility of a new age limit in the NBA, and a lot of scared High Schoolers could make the jump. Downs probably has the worst chance of all the High Schoolers to be drafted, yet he is probably the most likely to jump, according to sources close to his family.

As for the college kids, I agree. It's a shame that some GM's are pushing aside these excellent college players for nothing more than potential, but we don't make the picks, we just predict them. I went to Nashville to catch a glimpse of David Lee this week and was very impressed with him. His stock has gone way up, and I'd be expecting his draft position to also go way up in the next edition of our Mock Draft. You can probably lump Julius Hodge into that boat as well.

As for Sean Banks, he has all but declared. Both he and Pierre Pierce don't have many options because they have both been kicked off of their college teams and don't have any serious plans of continuing at their Universities. Banks could have easily been a top ten pick this season, but instead of improving from his Freshman of the Year season, his attitude grew worse and it just seemed like he stopped trying. He'll have to shake those misconceptions in the upcoming workouts to have any chance at the first round.

Thanks for the feedback everyone! I'll be happy to reply to anymore of your questions, comments, or suggestions.

02civic · Mar 23, 2005

i like the Raptors taking Ewing.

I'm surprised though...do the Raps actually have 3 second round picks this year, to go along with 2 first round picks...thats unbelievable. Let me know

Shapecity · Mar 23, 2005

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 02civic:</div><div class="quote_post">i like the Raptors taking Ewing.

I'm surprised though...do the Raps actually have 3 second round picks this year, to go along with 2 first round picks...thats unbelievable. Let me know</div>
Haha that's exactly what we said. It seemed every other pick was for the Raptors.

"Who's up next?"
"The Raptors"
"Are you sure? Didn't we just draft for them?"
"Yeah I thought so too, let me check"
"Yup they have yet, another pick"

EDIT: Actually it was a mistake we skipped Philly's pick and gave it to the Toronto.

.cabangbang · Mar 23, 2005

Please don't let GSW take Gigli....

CUSA Fan · Mar 24, 2005

Where's Eddie Basden? I think he would be a great fit where ever he goes. He is a very versatile player. He can help a lot of teams out on defense, I mean, he is the Conference USA all time leader in steals. I think he will go somewhere in this round, mid to late. And I'm also pissed at Sean Banks. He goes from a possible lottery pick to a late first rounder because of his troubles in college.

KICKSDADDY613 · Mar 24, 2005

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CUSA Fan:</div><div class="quote_post">Where's Eddie Basden? I think he would be a great fit where ever he goes. He is a very versatile player. He can help a lot of teams out on defense, I mean, he is the Conference USA all time leader in steals. I think he will go somewhere in this round, mid to late. And I'm also pissed at Sean Banks. He goes from a possible lottery pick to a late first rounder because of his troubles in college.</div>

Excellent player to bring up. I knew I'd forget about someone, and Basden is it. Unfortuantly I think a lot of GMs do aswell. He is solid at 6-5 and goes what 210-215. His defense is amazing, as well as, lets not forget, he can put points on the board. I think he'd be the type of player to go to Portsmouth or Chicago, then get into workouts and destroy the people he'd be matched up with. I personally love to read and be told how individual matchups go in player pre draft workouts, i've been there, been to em, know what it's like and I love to see how players you think would be great, get hammered, and some players just amaze you with what they can do. A couple years ago, I was in a tryout matching up against JR Bremer, and he just blew my mind how amazingly talented and athletic he was. And look what it did for him. Just goes to show, you never can tell!

Voodoo Child · Mar 24, 2005

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Where's Eddie Basden? I think he would be a great fit where ever he goes. He is a very versatile player. He can help a lot of teams out on defense, I mean, he is the Conference USA all time leader in steals. I think he will go somewhere in this round, mid to late. And I'm also pissed at Sean Banks. He goes from a possible lottery pick to a late first rounder because of his troubles in college.</div>

Don't think that we forgot about Basden. Him, Ross, Lucas III, Battle, and a handful of other great college players just weren't good enough to make the mock this time around. Scouts aren't as high one Basden as they were in February. He had a chance to make a serious name for himself in the Conference USA tournament and the NCAA tournament, but he blew both chances. His overall March performance has been terrible. To start off the month, he went 3-11 against Louisville and only finished with 7 points. In their last regular season game, Basden was held to only 2-6 shooting and 8 points. In the Tournament games (C-USA & NCAA), he shot a combined 9-26 and 7 turnovers, which overshadowed his 14 ppg and 8.5 rpg. Like I said earlier, he had his chances. He could have outplayed Francisco Garcia, Rodney Carney, or Julius Hodge and really helped his draft stock, but he never did. Like KICKSDADDY613 pointed out, he could do well at the Portsmouth Invitational (which he has yet to confirm his invitation to) or the Chicago predraft workouts. Until then, he just doesn't have enough to get him into the second round over guys like Aaron Miles and Chuck Hayes.

Mr. J · Mar 24, 2005

I thought Vladimir Veremeenko would be a late first rounder and hopefully the Knicks could pick him up.

Kid Canada · Mar 24, 2005

What about Ivan Chariaev? I heard his plan is too enter and I see him atleast as a second rounder on potential.

Shapecity · Mar 24, 2005

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kid Canada:</div><div class="quote_post">What about Ivan Chariaev? I heard his plan is too enter and I see him atleast as a second rounder on potential.</div>
He's definitely intriguing. A 7'1 quick, shooter. I've read he might actually play a year of college ball to adapt to US culture more and improve his physique. I've never seen him play, but he's being compared from Dirk to Skeeta, so he sounds like a coin flip at this point. We will keep our ears open on Ivan's situation.

Here's a hoopshype article on him Source

Trip · Mar 24, 2005

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">He's definitely intriguing. A 7'1 quick, shooter. I've read he might actually play a year of college ball to adapt to US culture more and improve his physique. I've never seen him play, but he's being compared from Dirk to Skeeta, so he sounds like a coin flip at this point. We will keep our ears open on Ivan's situation.

Here's a hoopshype article on him Source</div>
From what I know, Chiriaev would not be able to play college ball, because he had hired an agent last year when he declared, then pulled out and went overseas. If he could've played NCAA ball last year at Syracuse, I'm sure he would have if the agent situation didn't affect his eligibility. I don't see him being a NBA pick at all. He was unimpressive against Canadian competition and sounded too cocky to be successful. He plays point guard at 7-1, but from what reports have told me, he is too slow and unathletic to even play the three. If he gets to the NBA, he'll most likely be allotted at the four or even five, but the thing is he lacks the strength to cope. Maybe he has gotten better over his year in Europe, but I doubt he would've received lots of PT considering his skill level right now. Maybe a late second-rounder...

Shapecity · Mar 24, 2005

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">From what I know, Chiriaev would not be able to play college ball, because he had hired an agent last year when he declared, then pulled out and went overseas. If he could've played NCAA ball last year at Syracuse, I'm sure he would have if the agent situation didn't affect his eligibility. I don't see him being a NBA pick at all. He was unimpressive against Canadian competition and sounded too cocky to be successful. He plays point guard at 7-1, but from what reports have told me, he is too slow and unathletic to even play the three. If he gets to the NBA, he'll most likely be allotted at the four or even five, but the thing is he lacks the strength to cope. Maybe he has gotten better over his year in Europe, but I doubt he would've received lots of PT considering his skill level right now. Maybe a late second-rounder...</div>I was not aware of the agent situation, thanks for that piece of important information.

As for the cocky stigma attached to him, he tries to explain himself in that hoopshype article. "The NBA Needs Ivan Chiriaev" he's claiming his poor English was misinterpreted when he said those infamous words.

He needs to get being a point guard out of his head if he wants to play in the NBA. At 7'1 there's no chance he can compete with the speed of NBA guards. For now he's going to be left off the Mock until he starts making some noise in workouts or invitationals.

JWohl · Mar 25, 2005

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KICKSDADDY613:</div><div class="quote_post">Good Mock Round 2. My Input Is This. Julius Hodge Is Very Quickly Flying Himself Back In The Hearts Of Scouts And Is Stamping His Place Into Round 1. The Hs Kids, Yes, Of Course, Had Better Drop Out, But You Never Can Tell, Some Seem To Get Dumber By The Year. I Feel In My Heart, Players Like Roberts, Thomas, Lee, Thompson, Gomes Are Really Gonna Make Gm's Kick Themselves In The Future. So Much Is Being Placed On Potential And International Players (even In Most Cases Hs Kids) That Kids Like That Are Now Bumped To Cheap 2nd Round Players After Having Solid Productive 4 Years. Kids Like Roberts Who Rectified His Career And Life, Thomas Is Notre Dames All Time Leader In Assists And Steals And 3rd In Scoring. Lee Was Misused For 4 Years And It Limited His Ability, Gomes Was A Killer With No One Around Him. And Thompson Has Gotten Better And Better Each Year. This Is Going To Become A Year Of Steals, And The Cba And The International Crop This Year Are Making It That Way.</div>
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