Official season is over and trade deadline thread

This year is over. I don't want to hear from the optimists in our fan base. The Rangers should be one of the most interesting sellers in recent memory at the deadline because of the 4 or 5 players they will put out there. Those would be Girardi, Boyle, Callahan, Brassard and possibly Staal.

Brassard will have some decent value at the deadline because of his playoffs last season. Boyle for some reason always plays well in the playoffs. Anybody who thinks Callahan should not be offered up at the deadline is a moron. There is NO gain by keeping him. He is a perfect playoff rental for a team. He is a good playoff player. He will be fresh and well rested. His return will be stout and they can possibly resign him after the season. Same with Girardi. Honestly, I don't see them keeping either. I think this team moves in a different direction.

They need to acquire a crap load of picks and prospects and go in a different direction. They had a 5 year window with this team, got to the conference finals once. The window is closed. Time to try an open another one before Hank is ancient. They have an opportunity for a quick rebuild if Sather doesn't screw it up.

 

I forgot Talbot who should be a major piece to deal. Zucc as well. On one hand, when you lose 2 studs like Sauer and Staal to fluke injuries and they are finished, it's incredible bad luck and a huge hit to your organization. On the other hand, I hate what Sather has done lately. Asham, Pyatt, Pouliot, D. Moore, Falk, ect..... You talk yourself into being positive when these moves are being made, but the reality is they all sucked. Sather has 2 huge flaws right now.

One, he puts nothing into getting guys who can win faceoffs. Two, he puts nothing into getting role playing forwards and defenseman who are tough, can hit and are hard to play against. They don't have to be fighters. They just have to be tough, physical players. Other than Dorsett, look at the role players on this team.

Pyatt- Soft, slow, easily knocked off the puck, no offensive skill.
Boyle - Slow, lazy, soft in half his games, almost no offensive skill
Pouliot - Lazy, soft, doesn't know how to use his offensive skill
D. Moore - Soft, weak, no offensive skill
Asham - Lazy, slow, only offensive skill is shooting the puck
Brassard - He's playing like a lazy, unmotivated, slow role player.

Basically, that is two lines of forwards. It's not surprising this team blows. Those moves are all Sather.

 

Cally will not be dealt. If anything all his injuries this season are a plus. It will lower his cap number for his new deal. He should be in the 4's per season for sure now.
Girardi and MDZ are simple to me. Sather needs to decide what the plan is for those two. If he will re-sign them, then don't deal them. If we will not re-sign them, and by now we have an idea of what they want on their new deals so Sather should know, then you deal them. Pretty simple IMO.
Brassard is the same as Girardi and MDZ. Re-sign or no???
Boyle, Pyatt, D. Moore all should go for even mid to low round picks if possible.
Staal it all comes down to health. If he comes back and plays a few weeks before the trade DL, I am sure he will have some value. Even a mid prospect or pick. I cannot see us bringing him back after next season.
Even Richards I would take anything for. Saves us a buyout this summer, and the risk of him getting injured before this summer. Doubtful we can move him, but who knows.

With all this BS being said, and how pathetic this team looks right now, just remember there is no long re-build needed here. We have a solid core. A great goalie. AND with minimum 37.5 mill in cap space we can be right on top next season with the right moves this summer. No doubt about it. This can and will be a way different team next season. Question is can Sather get it done correctly this time? I have my concerns, but he will have every chance to make this a SC team this summer. No doubt about it.

 

I disagree. I think Cally will be dealt. I think they will get a late first and a very good, NHL ready prospect for him. That would be the right move.

 

We disagree there 100% dump. I don't think he gets dealt. And no way do I think it is the right move to deal him. I think it is a bad move to deal him. I would not do it. The only way I would do it is if he is demanding some huge raise that puts him over 5.5 mill per season cap hit wise, and after this season I find it hard to believe that is the case. How can he justify that?

Outside of that being the case, and very doubtful it is, no way I deal Cally. You are just way down on him right now, which I fully get, and it is clouding your opinion at the moment I think.

 

So far this season sucks bigtime but is not over yet. We are still hanging in and this division is weak. I'll wait to see what trades if any sather makes now and by the deadline before deciding. Right now though kristo needs to immediately be brought up for starters and let the kid play and see if he can give us an offensive boost

 

I was in favor of trades in offseason and pretty much all season until the Devils game. I dont want to lose any young talent now. The mini restart in the offseason is perfect, there is SO MUCH dead weight on this team that comes off at seasons end its great. Trade MDZ and Girardi. I would keep Staal and hope that his concussion isnt serious. Callys injuries keeps him from getting more than 5m. This could be a blessing.

The positives are Kreider developing and Talbot being a very good backup goalie out of nowhere. I hope AV is able to mold this team to his liking, time will tell.

 

Translation, Sather better not make all these decisions on his own. He better get a lot of input from AV.

 

Pretty much Chuck LOL

 

NY31, you are living in a dream world. This team lost 2 stud defenseman to injury and their career is over. Had to trade for a first line forward and give up 2 3rd line players. Essentially, this team needs 3 new defenseman, 5 forwards. It happens. This team isn't going anywhere. They need to do a quick rebuild and write this year off and move in a new direction.

 

This team has had terrible luck with 2 defenseman and terrible role player moves by Sather. Right now we have 8 spots that need big upgrades and the farm can't fill them right now. This team is finished this year and you can hear it in the voice of the coach who said he doesn't have what he needs.

 

AV may not have the players he thinks he needs to win , but this is what he has. Perhaps he should give a call to Torts' to see how he managed to get this team to average 98 pts. a season over the last three years

 

In some ways this group is better off playing a bit slower since they dont have the size and shutdown dmen to stop others in firewagon type games. And most of them cant shoot straight anyways if the get a 3/2 2/1.

 

31, you gotta be realistic here. This team stinks and not winning anything this year. Sather will make his obligatory quick fix trade as always and they can still sneak into the playoffs then maybe they win one round IF hank stands on his head again. Rinse and repeat.

 

I'm with you 31, I'm not saying season is lost either. There was a run not too long ago where people on here were signing this team's praises big time. I will say though, if Sather doesnt somehow get an impact forward here, we'll be lucky to get in.

 

No doubt they can make the playoffs still. That's a given considering how much time is left, and where we sit at the moment. But the reality is we are not winning a cup, or making an SCF run, or making an ECF run. Maybe we win a round if everything broke perfectly right and/or we made a trade (similar to last season). But this team is not going very far barring something major happening.

As such, like I said earlier this week, any deals I make for this season would also have an eye on next season. No quick fix deals that hurt us for next season. I just don't think that makes sense at this point unless something really changes from now until the trade DL.