Official Trade Ideas Thread (Lakers)

Before the Lakers forum gets bombarded with "Trade (insert name here)" threads, I've decided to make an official trade thread.

However, let's make the trades realistic and think about the following things:
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[*]How will this trade benefit the Lakers?
[*]Why will the other team accept this trade?
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So, I'll try and start off the thread by asking...who wants to get rid of Devean George and Kareem Rush? What can we do?

Note: Any unrealistic trade proposals will be deleted, and please, everyone...try and keep from heated arguments/flaming/etc.

 

I am thinking a Lakers/Golden State Trade:

Lakers Trade:
Kareem Rush
Devean George

Lakers Recieve:
Derek Fisher

Golden State Trades:
Derek Fisher

Golden State Recieves:
Devean George
Kareem Rush

This trade will benefit the Lakers because they will remove the overstock of Small fowards and also bring in a rock solid poing guard in Derek Fisher.

This benefits the Warriors in that they get a good role player in George and with Rush they get a player who can become great with the minutes they need and by bringing him will give relief to the sg spot, this trade gives the Warriors 2 good 3 point shooters.

Salary Wise I don't know how much Fisher is making, but I think it would match up George being 3 million and Rush making 1.7 mill which I believe Fisher signed a 27 million dollar deal which means he is makes 4-5 mill this year. This trade could work and I think it would be a positive for both teams.

EDIT: Salaries don't match, for some reason I wrote down Slava's $ inplace for George's.

 

Billa_Bong, I won't be the first to speak my mind on this trade...but I will say that this is exactly how to post a trade idea, IMO.

Great post. :thumbsup:

 

While, I personally would love for that move(for fisher) to happen I can't see it happening because the Warriors gave him an absolutely huge long term deal this summer and I dont think the Lakers could pick it up. I also think that yes, you would get rid of the load at the forward but i think you would also pick up a load at PG because we would have Fisher, Brown, Atkins, and Vujacic.

I am thinking a Lakers/Boston Trade(again):

Lakers Trade:
Kareem Rush
Chucky Atkins

Lakers Recieve:
Marcus Banks
Michael Stewart

Boston Trades:
Marcus Banks
Michael Stewart

Boston Recieves:
Kareem Rush
Chucky Atkins

Why will the other team accept this trade?
I think Boston would accept this trade because they could have another solid and proven(as a role player) PG to backup Payton and a young up and coming shooting guard/small forward to backup either Pierce or Ricky Davis. The Celtics are a rebuilding team and I think that they could use a guy like Kareem Rush to go along Paul Pierce for the future. I think this is a good move for the Lakers because we need Defense right now and Banks is an excellent defender on ball. He is also much quicker than Atkins and that would work well with the athletic lineup we have. I think Stewart would help us out backing up Mihm because let's face it, we dont know how long Vlade will be healthy and he is so slow even when he is healthy that he doesn't gel well with this athletic lineup.

Does this trade work salary-wise?
Banks is making 1.34 mil and Stewart is at 4.8 mil this year
while Rush is making 1.17 and Atkins is making 4.2. So I think this trade would work salary-wise and it could help both teams.

 

Thanks Brandon, I have this trade which could be good for the Lakers:

Toronto Recieves / Lakers Trades:
Lamar Odom, Salary: 10.5 Million
Devean George, Salary: 4.5 Million
Kareem Rush, Salary: 1 Million

Lakers Recieves / Toronto Trades:
Rafer Alston, Salary: 3.5 Million
Vince Carter, Salary: 12.5 Million

Laker Benefits:
Laker would get Vince Carter who would play the sf position bringing in a garentee'd 2nd option and also a good point guard in Rafer Alston who could fill in the Point Guard Position perfectly.

Toronto Benefits:
The Raptors would be getting Lamar Odom who seems to do great in the Eastern Conference and will also give them a great versatile foward, they also get a good shooting guard who can get the playing time he needs to be a good player and really develope his game. They also get a athelic sf in George who can come off the bench and start games and will put in a good effort on the boards and rebounding.

Salary:
The salaries match up perfectly, 16 Million for both teams if trading this year, in all I think it would be a good trade for both teams bringing there team to a new level of play.

 

Your going to have Kobe Bryant and Vince Carter on the same team?Also whos gonna play PF, there depleted enough up front as it is.Heres my idea.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Billa_Bong:</div><div class="quote_post">Thanks Brandon, I have this trade which could be good for the Lakers:

Toronto Recieves / Lakers Trades:
Lamar Odom, Salary: 10.5 Million
Devean George, Salary: 4.5 Million
Kareem Rush, Salary: 1 Million

Lakers Recieves / Toronto Trades:
Rafer Alston, Salary: 3.5 Million
Vince Carter, Salary: 12.5 Million

Laker Benefits:
Laker would get Vince Carter who would play the sf position bringing in a garentee'd 2nd option and also a good point guard in Rafer Alston who could fill in the Point Guard Position perfectly.

Toronto Benefits:
The Raptors would be getting Lamar Odom who seems to do great in the Eastern Conference and will also give them a great versatile foward, they also get a good shooting guard who can get the playing time he needs to be a good player and really develope his game. They also get a athelic sf in George who can come off the bench and start games and will put in a good effort on the boards and rebounding.

Salary:
The salaries match up perfectly, 16 Million for both teams if trading this year, in all I think it would be a good trade for both teams bringing there team to a new level of play.</div>

I would never do this trade i wouldnt trade lamar for vince he is so much more valuable NEVER! Vince and Kobe on the same team I DONT THINK SO!

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NickVanExel:</div><div class="quote_post"> I also think that yes, you would get rid of the load at the forward but i think you would also pick up a load at PG because we would have Fisher, Brown, Atkins, and Vujacic. </div> Some one correct me if I?m wrong but the trade can happen, unlikely, because Brown doesn't have a guaranteed contract so he would be waved so we won't have a load of PG.

To Billa: I wouldn?t trade Odom for Vince in this world or the next LO is to valuable for us right now on the rebounding end.

 

<font color="SeaGreen">Sonics Trade</font>:
Nick Collison (approx. $1.7 million)

<font color="Purple">Lakers Trade</font>:
Jumaine Jones (approx. $1.7 million)

Here's why the Lakers should do this: it gives them a young PF that can shoot threes and rebound, and has a nice post game. Also, we lose an SF, and it gives Walton more playing time.

Here's why the Sonics should do this: Collison isn't getting very many opportunities to show his stuff, with an overstock of PF's, and Jumaine Jones would give them a rebounding presence at the three.

Salary-wise, it works. Collison is young and tough, a great player in college, and could see more minutes in Los Angeles than he is in Seattle at the moment. This trade, IMO, would benefit the Lakers AND the Sonics.

 

Is there a reasonable trade that could involve Jason Kidd coming to LA? I think Kidd and Bryant would be an amazing tandem, but the Lakers may have to give up Odom and some others to get him.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">Is there a reasonable trade that could involve Jason Kidd coming to LA? I think Kidd and Bryant would be an amazing tandem, but the Lakers may have to give up Odom and some others to get him.</div>
Well, my take on this...I don't know if it's worth it.

Now, before you stop me there...I'm thinking about the future for a second.

Sure, I believe that Kidd-Kobe-Odom could very easily be a championship contender...this season. However, in two or three years, what will become of Kidd? Also, how will we ever get off the books with these three salaries all being over $10 million a year, for the extended periods we'd have them at?

New Jersey will eventually trade Kidd...or I believe so, anyways. I think it would be nice to trade off Brian Grant, Kareem Rush and Chucky Atkins (shelling out guys at all positions that they need) for Kidd and maybe Nenad Krstic...but I don't know if the Nets would do that.

 

I'm gonna touch on a couple things here real quick. Firstly, the Odom and Vince swap. I would never do it. Vince for one, is a ballhog. He'll demand touches, therefore taking away from the likes of Mihm, Caron, and even Kobe. Also, if Kobe couldn't play alongside another superstar in Shaq, what makes you think egos wouldn't clash with Vince on the team. It's not a good trade. By losing Lamar, we lose a diverse player. We lose someone that can give us a little bit of everything, from scoring and rebounding to assists. He can do it all. Vince is one dimensional. Not a good rebounder, and considering the Lakers are a pretty bad rebounding team is, adding him would kill us even more. Aside from that, he's selfish. He's got an ego, and quite frankly, we don't need another one of those (nothing against Kobe). But yea, overall, bad for the Lakers. Lose our best rebounder and get a whiny, egotistical ballhog back in return, no thank you, I'll pass on Vince.

About Jason Kidd, I really don't like the thought of him coming over to the Lakers. It'd be good for a couple years, but after that, it'd lose it's luster. He's already aging and doesn't have the best knees in the world. So, quite frankly, with that alone, you can't even be sure how long he may last. Beyond health issues, his contract. It's massive. The Lakers already have 3 people making at, around, or over $10 mil this year (Lamar, Grant, Kobe), and adding a fourth to that list would not help us with cap, especially in upcoming seasons. So, granted there may be good things about him coming, the fact that he brings a huge contract and health issues outweigh the posistives of getting him.

 

Indiana trades:
David Harrison

L.A. Lakers trades:
Kareem Rush

TRADE ACCEPTED

Why do we do it?
we need more inside presence. david harrison is a big body and can get in there and rebound off the bench for us. even though the stats show our rebounding is fine, stats dont paint the whole picture. the other teams are constantly putting together strings of offensive rebounds, and seem to always convert on them. harrison is a good rookie to backup mihm (who's been horrible rebounding lately) while vlade is still on recovery mode.

Why do they do it?
They're starting james jones right now, who, despite playing well, is not starting caliber. kareem rush is an upgrade, even if he starts at the 3 for them. on another team kareem could greatly excel, and i can think of no better situation than indy.

and it works salary wise.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm gonna touch on a couple things here real quick. Firstly, the Odom and Vince swap. I would never do it. Vince for one, is a ballhog. He'll demand touches, therefore taking away from the likes of Mihm, Caron, and even Kobe. Also, if Kobe couldn't play alongside another superstar in Shaq, what makes you think egos wouldn't clash with Vince on the team. It's not a good trade. By losing Lamar, we lose a diverse player. We lose someone that can give us a little bit of everything, from scoring and rebounding to assists. He can do it all. Vince is one dimensional. Not a good rebounder, and considering the Lakers are a pretty bad rebounding team is, adding him would kill us even more. Aside from that, he's selfish. He's got an ego, and quite frankly, we don't need another one of those (nothing against Kobe). But yea, overall, bad for the Lakers. Lose our best rebounder and get a whiny, egotistical ballhog back in return, no thank you, I'll pass on Vince.

About Jason Kidd, I really don't like the thought of him coming over to the Lakers. It'd be good for a couple years, but after that, it'd lose it's luster. He's already aging and doesn't have the best knees in the world. So, quite frankly, with that alone, you can't even be sure how long he may last. Beyond health issues, his contract. It's massive. The Lakers already have 3 people making at, around, or over $10 mil this year (Lamar, Grant, Kobe), and adding a fourth to that list would not help us with cap, especially in upcoming seasons. So, granted there may be good things about him coming, the fact that he brings a huge contract and health issues outweigh the posistives of getting him.</div>

I know the Carter Trade was farfetched but you never know eh... haha well I got another one I think would be great for the Lakers.


Laker's Recieve / Denver Trades:
Nene

Laker's Trade / Denver Recieves:
Jumaine Jones
Sasha Vujacic(Ya I know some of you won't like this but we need a good pf)

Laker Positive's:
Gives Laker's good Power Fowards to fill front court letting Odom move down to the sf. Nene can block shots and gives the Lakers another inside presence other than Mihm and also would really complete the Lakers front court.


Denver Positive's:
This trade gives The Nugget's a good energic tought sf who can hit the three and drive the lane, also with Sasha you get a very good three point shooters and can develope into a great point guard in the future.

Salary:
With Nene making 2.4 million this year it matches perfectly with 1.6 Jones is making and .8 Sasha is making. Trade Clear on this side of the table.

Edit: This is also a good trade for Denver because of the having Camby and Martin in the Front Court and those two have long term contracts unlike Nene. With Nene gone they can use the talent they get for him to fill in depth on the rest of there roster.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Billa_Bong:</div><div class="quote_post">I know the Carter Trade was farfetched but you never know eh... haha well I got another one I think would be great for the Lakers.


Laker's Recieve / Denver Trades:
Nene

Laker's Trade / Denver Recieves:
Jumaine Jones
Sasha Vujacic(Ya I know some of you won't like this but we need a good pf)

Laker Positive's:
Gives Laker's good Power Fowards to fill front court letting Odom move down to the sf. Nene can block shots and gives the Lakers another inside presence other than Mihm and also would really complete the Lakers front court.


Denver Positive's:
This trade gives The Nugget's a good energic tought sf who can hit the three and drive the lane, also with Sasha you get a very good three point shooters and can develope into a great point guard in the future.

Salary:
With Nene making 2.4 million this year it matches perfectly with 1.6 Jones is making and .8 Sasha is making. Trade Clear on this side of the table.

Edit: This is also a good trade for Denver because of the having Camby and Martin in the Front Court and those two have long term contracts unlike Nene. With Nene gone they can use the talent they get for him to fill in depth on the rest of there roster.</div>

I really like this trade, put nene on the bench for us and suddenly we'd have a really deep bench. He could back up Odom and Mihm which is awesome! Although, I dont know if they'd do it for Vujacic since he is so unproven. I think if you give Jones and Rush or George they'd do it. Great trade idea! :thumbsup:

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NickVanExel:</div><div class="quote_post">I really like this trade, put nene on the bench for us and suddenly we'd have a really deep bench. He could back up Odom and Mihm which is awesome! Although, I dont know if they'd do it for Vujacic since he is so unproven. I think if you give Jones and Rush or George they'd do it. Great trade idea! :thumbsup:</div>

I HIGHLY doubt Nene would be on the bench. They'd likely move Lamar to the small forward and put Caron on the bench, even though he's been playing good. That way, it allows Lamar to play the position that he's actually meant to play and it would actually give us a pretty good front court with Nene and Mihm. Now, if the trade wasn't contemplating saying bye bye to Sasha, I'd do it. I like NVEs idea, give up Jones and Rush or George. I'd no doubt do that.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">I HIGHLY doubt Nene would be on the bench. They'd likely move Lamar to the small forward and put Caron on the bench, even though he's been playing good. That way, it allows Lamar to play the position that he's actually meant to play and it would actually give us a pretty good front court with Nene and Mihm. Now, if the trade wasn't contemplating saying bye bye to Sasha, I'd do it. I like NVEs idea, give up Jones and Rush or George. I'd no doubt do that.</div>
Yes, I think your right, I would think the roster with this trade would be

Atkins/Brown
Bryant/Rush
Odom/Butler/Walton
Nene/Cook/Slava
Mihm/Divac

Injured List:
Devean George
Brian Grant

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Billa_Bong:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes, I think your right, I would think the roster with this trade would be

Atkins/Brown
Bryant/Rush
Odom/Butler/Walton
Nene/Cook/Slava
Mihm/Divac

Injured List:
Devean George
Brian Grant</div>

Ok...either way getting Nene would make our lineup deeper period.

How about my lineup:
PG: Kobe/Atkins/Brown
SG: Butler/Rush
SF: Odom/Walton
PF: Nene/Cook/Slava
C: Mihm/Divac

 

Its nice but i was hearing rumors going around about Rush getting traded for Nene since rush is i nthe shadow of Kobe and may develop into a star hell do much betetr i nDenver and especially since Veshon Lenard is out they can use a guy like him he may even start.