Politics Oregon assault weapons ban petitioners turn in signatures

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So if this law passes will you:

  1. Obey the law.

    60.0%
  2. Refuse to follow the law.

    20.0%
  3. Move to state that doesn't have laws like this.

    6.7%
  4. Protest.

    6.7%
  5. Thoughts and Prayers.

    33.3%
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  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    SALEM -- Petitioners for an initiative that would restrict the sale of assault weapons in Oregon have submitted some of the signatures necessary to make the November ballot.

    If the batch submitted Monday in Salem includes at least 1,000 valid signatures, the attorney general will begin the ballot title drafting process. Petitioners must ultimately submit 88,184 signatures by July 6.

    The initiative opposed by conservatives will likely be appealed to the Oregon Supreme Court, and petitioners cannot gather signatures during an appeal.

    Penny Okamoto, executive director of Ceasefire Oregon, tells the Statesman Journal she's concerned a months-long legal review will leave too little time to collect signatures.

    Okamoto says if they fail to make this year's ballot, supporters of the ban will push for it during the next legislative session. If that fails, they will try for the 2020 ballot.

    --The Associated Press
     
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    Interfaith leaders, youths to push for assault-rifle ban

    SALEM — A movement to ban assault rifles in Oregon was launched in a Portland church Thursday, with clerics saying youths — many of whom have been protesting for gun control — will drive the campaign.

    Interfaith religious leaders in Portland said they aim to get enough signatures on petitions to put a ban on assault weapons before voters, in the November election, in a statewide ballot.

    There has been some movement in just a few other states in the wake of the Feb. 14 shooting at a Florida high school that killed 17 people, including:

    • In Delaware, Gov. John Carney on Feb. 23 called for state lawmakers to ban the sale of assault-style rifles, saying military-style weapons like the rifle used in Florida have no place in the hands of civilians. Legislation is now being drafted.
    • In California, legislation is proposed that would expand the definition of an assault weapon to include most semi-automatic rifles bigger than a .22. But that would require them to be licensed like assault weapons, not banned.
    In Oregon, the campaigners must gather over 88,000 signatures by July 6, and they're counting on youths who have demonstrated for gun control to help.

    "Young people in this country are crying out. This is the moment in time where we need to step alongside them as adults and do our part with them," said Pastor Mark Knutson of the Augustana Lutheran Church in Portland.

    While a person must be at least 18 to vote, even a 14-year-old can go out and seek signatures, Knutson told The Associated Press over the phone.

    "This is going to be a youth campaign," said Knutson, who will be one of the three chief petitioners of the ballot measure.

    Rev. Alcena Boozer, a former high school principal and pastor emeritus of St. Philip the Deacon Episcopal Church; and Rabbi Michael Cahana, of Congregation Beth Israel, are the other two chief petitioners. The treasurer is Imam Muhammad Najieb, director of the Muslim Community Center of Portland and a Marine veteran.


    The anti-assault-rifle campaign was launched with a news conference at the Augustana Lutheran Church, which Knutson said is fitting. He recalled the civil rights campaigns of the 1950s and '60s, and how churches played a role, including one in Alabama where the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. preached.

    "The civil rights movement started out at Dexter Avenue Baptist church in Montgomery," Knutson said. "Good things come out of unexpected places."

    -- The Associated Press
     
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  3. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    Follow the money.

    Want your political view promoted without blowback?

    Make a large "donation" to a church.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I think this movement has legs.
     
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    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    Are you talking about all the money that the NRA pushes to the politician to make sure their agenda is passed? That's a lot of money. blood money that is.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    All while CONSISTENTLY ignoring what their members want. They are NOT lobbying for their members, they're lobbying for the gun manufacturers.
     
  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    They're talking about confiscation and the definitions of "assault rifles" is extremely vague. This is a horrible bill.
     
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    These guys don't give a shit what an assault rifle is! They just want them banned. They will add to list later when it feels good.
     
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  9. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Most of the money, by a large majority, regarding gun restriction issues is spent by the NRA.
     
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    People need to learn about guns before they try to legislate them. It really isn't too much to ask.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Well that's what lobbyists do.

    If you had to wager a guess, would you say that most of the money, by a large majority, regarding age related issues is spent by the AARP?

    Seriously though, what do people think that special interest groups do exactly? If you join Green Peace or the Sierra Club, you expect that it will be fighting for environmental rights, correct? A lot of people join the NRA because they believe in the second amendment and they want to support an organization that will fight for their rights. This isn't an uncommon thing.
     
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    That deserves to be posted again! Perhaps even trolled a bit.
     
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    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

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    This is really going to rile up people outside of the Willamette Valley, still might not be enough people to vote it down though.
     
  14. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Most NRA members want to tighten up our gun laws. Not sure why they don't vote for representatives that will lobby for that issue. It must have something to do with secret video in Russia.
     
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    I am not a member so would you let us know what gun law needs to be tighten up? Perhaps you could include why.
    It would really be cool if you could include how it interfaces smoothly with shall not be infringed.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    There's a pretty stark difference between passing some extra laws for background checks compared to a ban on assault rifles or confiscation.
     
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    As a dog your human laws don't apply to me.

    Give me all of your assault weapons. I will give them a very nice home.
     
  18. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Apparently, neither do our bathroom habits.
     
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    I have read the proposed bill.

    This is entirely too far reaching and vague by design.

    By definition any rifle with a clip falls under the preview of this proposed action.

    So, my little .22 cal target toy suddenly becomes an "assault" rifle. I would have to register it with the state, turn it over to a registered gun dealer or render it inoperable.

    If I am able to retain the rifle, I must prove to the satisfaction or a state inspector, the it is in a safe , locked storage on my own property. If the inspector deems my facility to be lacking, they can refuse to allow me to retain the rifle, and arguably allowed to confiscate at that time (if the allotted time has expired).

    Pretty simple guys, if you do not like guns, do not own one. Just leave my stuff alone.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    How about if I don't like me or my loved ones being shot?
     

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