Our "Gasol" trade... Multiple Ideas

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by BlazerFanForLife, Dec 14, 2009.

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what trade do you like most while still being realistic

  1. Bosh for LMA Blake Outlaw

    2 vote(s)
    7.4%
  2. Butler for Blake(OR)Webster + Outlaw + Rudy

    19 vote(s)
    70.4%
  3. Kevin Martin for Webster Outlaw Rudy

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    3.7%
  4. Gay for Outlaw and Batum

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  1. BlazerFanForLife

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    THIS IS A LIST OF TRADE IDEA THAT WILL LAND PORTLAND ANOTHER STAR PLAYER ALL HAVE SOME REASONING BEHIND THEM SO ARE ATLEAST PLAUSIBLE PLEASE ADD ANY INPUT AND MAKE YOUR OWN TRADE SUGGESTIONS

    Trade Idea #uno
    Toronto Currently situated #8 in the East continues to struggle and at the all star break is fighting for a playoff seed. Colangello doesn't like his chances of retaining Bosh and becomes open to offers.
    Portland Trades: LaMarcus Aldridge, Travis Outlaw, Steve Blake for Chris Bosh (trade accepted by all CBA rules and matching salaries)

    Outlaw and Blake are both expiring contracts allowing Toronto to only take on the salary of LaMarcus which is much more than they could have hoped with if Bosh were to leave. This gives them a very unique frontcourt of Barganini and Aldridge with Calderone Derozen and Hedo filling out the lineup.

    Trade Scenario #2 "The Butler"
    The Wizards are currently bottom dwellers in the East and there has been talk of Butler tuning out the rest of his teammates already. With a team built around Arenas and Jamison Butler could just talk his way out of town...
    Portland Trades #1: Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw, Rudy Fernadez for Caron Butler
    Trade Possibility #2: Martel, Outlaw and Fernadez for Caron Butler.
    Matters what the Wizards want in the trade and who they expect to resign/ let walk during free agency. The first trade is two expiring contracts in Blake and Outlaw allowing the Wiz to reduce payroll/sign who they want. The second trade lets them keep Martel and Rudy with Outlaw a possible returner as a off the bench scorer. Butler is big enough to even play Outlaw's role as a small 4 in a up tempo offence.

    Trade Scenario #3 "The Shot, Kevin Martin"
    Kings are horrible and we all know it. Kevin Martin is a great player on a bad team. He is an injury risk but is a great scorer and is versatile enough to play both the 2 and 3 as he's 6'7. I would be worried about his tendency to also get lost on defense which could easily be attributed to his weak team defence. The bottom line is he's the second coming of Ray Allen who makes his teammates better and is a winner.
    Portland Trades: Outlaw, Webster, Rudy for Martin
    Portland clears some of the logjam at the 2/3 giving them a starting 5 of Miller, Roy, Marin, LMA, Pryz with Bayless and Batum playing backup 1-3.

    Trade Scenario #4 "Gay... Rudy Gay"
    Memphis didn't sign Rudy Gay to a offer sheet so they might very well consider letting him walk this year. With Gay coming to our roster he will take most of the time at SF
    Portland Trades Outlaw and Batum for Rudy Gay
    the trade gives memphis a great perimiter defender something it is sorely lacking and one that is able to knock down the three ball
     
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  2. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    LeBron for Mills.

    Make it happen, KP!
     
  3. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    These big ideas died when KP let RLEC expire.
     
  4. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    It shows how totally lopsided that deal was for LA when every single one of those lopsided trades the OP mentioned doesn't come close to the garbage LA sent Memphis.
     
  5. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    It wasn't just the crap Memphis got in return, it was that it was WEEKS before the trade deadline and then Memphis declared "it was the best deal on the table".

    Bottom line, Jerry West put a bug in the ear of Michael Heisley.
     
  6. hasoos

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    I hate to say it, but I don't think there is a Gasol trade out there for Portland at this point.
     
  7. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Only if you mean that we send out our best player and get a Marc Gasol-like player in return.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Seconded. I looked at each one and none of them seemed even remotely like the Gasol deal. I was hoping to see the Steve Blake, Victor Claver, Martell Webster and Patty Mills for Chris Bosh option.
     
  9. rocketeer

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    are people still trying to pretend the gasol trade was some terrible deal? memphis got exactly what they wanted out of the trade. they were a terrible team with gasol, they didn't get any worse by getting rid of him. they cut a large amount of salary, added two 1st round picks, marc gasol, and javaris crittenton who has just been a first round pick.

    when they are already terrible and don't get any worse making the trade, how is that a bad deal?
     
  10. hasoos

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    Marc is turning into a pretty damn good player IMO. The trade is looking better for them as time is moving on.
     
  11. MARIS61

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    If that's the kind of offers KP gets I'm surprised he even gives out his phone number.

    Those guys aren't what I call stars and certainly aren't worth 3 major rotation guys each.

    None of them would improve our team noticeably even if we got them for free. Just more battles over egos and PT.
     
  12. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Um, because they likely could have gotten more young, inexpensive talent? They lucked out with Marc. It was a pure salary dump that turned out okay for them. The goal of a deal is to improve, not have the upside being that you'll suck about as much as you did before.
     
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    Besides, "Gasol trades" are exclusively designed, coordinated and approved by David Stern.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    I don't think it's entirely fair to say they "lucked out" with Marc. He was arguably the best Euroleague prospect prior to entering the NBA. He was at least on the level of Rudy Fernandez as a prospect, and a big man. He was a pretty valuable prospect to get and it's not that surprising that he's playing well.

    I don't think it was a great trade by any means. I think it was a below-average trade but not a historically bad one.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    lemme guess. Bake it?
     
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    OH wow that's how he did it! The mind control ear bugs from "Star Trek: The Wrath of Kahn" that makes SOOOOO much more sense now. I thought it was just stupidity now I realize it's extra-terrestrial mind control based decision making. Perhaps there are more of these bugs and they are telling KP to keep Blake...
     
  17. rocketeer

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    the goal of the deal was to dump gasol's salary while acquiring some young potential talented players. that's exactly what they did.

    where is the more young, inexpensive talent they could have gotten? the bulls trade people always talk about where they could have brought in overpaid players?

    you're right that the goal was a pure salary dump. and there wasn't a team in the league that could have offered them a better salary dump than the lakers did.
     
  18. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    It actually looks like a decent deal in hindsight because of Marc.
     
  19. DaRizzle

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    Jerry West had fully severed ties with MEM before the Gasol trade
    Lakers had the most in expiring contracts which was MEM goal (for right or wrong), they wanted salary relief.
    It was a financial trade for MEM and a talent trade for LA
     
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    who had already been named Euro MVP before the trade
     

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