P.J Brown?

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  1. Jerry West

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    Reports say we're looking to do a deal with the Hornets to bring P.J to Memphis.

    Obviously we don't know what it'd cost, but i'd love to see P.J in Memphis.

    He'd bring some class, leadership and consistency to the franchise, and make our second unit that much better.

    Make it happen Jerry.
     
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    A lot of teams are after P.J., hard to see the Hornets trading him to a team in their division, but Jerry West is capable of putting the deal together. I would guess Lo Wright and maybe a protected draft pick would be traded in return?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post"> I would guess Lo Wright and maybe a protected draft pick would be traded in return?</div>

    That would be the logical option, yes.

    I'd be a little uneasy about such a deal given Lo's got an expiring contract, but i think Jerry's comments not so long ago made it clear that we won't be giving him another contract anyway.

    Do you stick with Lo and look for a FA this coming off-season, or do you take P.J and postpone the FA search for the following off-season (when his contract expires)?

    Tough call.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jerry West:</div><div class="quote_post">That would be the logical option, yes.

    I'd be a little uneasy about such a deal given Lo's got an expiring contract, but i think Jerry's comments not so long ago made it clear that we won't be giving him another contract anyway.

    Do you stick with Lo and look for a FA this coming off-season, or do you take P.J and postpone the FA search for the following off-season (when his contract expires)?

    Tough call.</div>
    Considering the Grizzlies won't have cap space next year, they are better off postponing it. They can make a splash in 2007 when Eddie Jones and PJ Brown current deals end. That's $23M to play with.

    Next year's free agent group is relatively weak as well. I think the Grizz are better off getting something for Wright now, instead letting him walk next summer or dealing with Wright and his agent.

    I still get a kick of how Jerry West showed Wright how little he's valued around the league.

    I know Byron Scott has been reluctant to trade P.J., but maybe he helps out his long time comrade, Jerry West.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Considering the Grizzlies won't have cap space next year, they are better off postponing it. They can make a splash in 2007 when Eddie Jones and PJ Brown current deals end. That's $23M to play with.</div>

    Oh, i thought EJ's deal expired this year.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Next year's free agent group is relatively weak as well. </div>

    I was hoping for a run at Big Ben. He and Pau would be awesome together.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">
    I still get a kick of how Jerry West showed Wright how little he's valued around the league. </div>

    You can't let average NBA players dictate to your franchise. We didn't let Bonzi do it, so we weren't going to do it for Lo.

    To his credit though, he's stopped sooking and is playing hard (which is smart, given it's now a contract year).
     
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    The Hornets are building for the future and would appreciate the cap relief that Lorenzen Wright's contract will bring them. Wright is also a better scorer in the low post than Brown but brings more intangibles. The Hornets won't do the Wright/Brown trade straight up but as Shape said, a first round pick would be enough. Don't think that New Orleans would mind a young guy like Dahntay Jones or Antonio Burks either; although I don't know if West might want to give up on those two.

    I've been hearing this stuff about Memphis going hard after Brown for about a week now, so I guess West must really love him. Brown would bring a lot more rebounding and toughness off the bench, or if he starts alongside Gasol, could be the consistent rebounder that the Grizzlies lack right now.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">New Orleans would mind a young guy like Dahntay Jones or Antonio Burks either; although I don't know if West might want to give up on those two.
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    I wouldn't see Dahntay being traded, he's really thriving this year and adds some nice athleticism and a spark off the bench.

    I'm a fan of Burks, but right now he's only the 12th man and unlikely to get a chance so he could be moved.
     
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    I like this trade from Memphis' point of view. I've always liked P.J. Brown, because he's a very consistent and reliable player. His numbers never really change from year to year (9-11 ppg, 8-10 rpg), and he always plays 75-82 games. He's 37 years old, but that could work to the Grizzlies' advantage. They seem to be having more success with veterans like Jackson and E. Jones than they did with younger guys like Bonzi and Stromile. This would be a great trade for the Grizzlies even if they had the same contract size and length.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">The Hornets are building for the future and would appreciate the cap relief that Lorenzen Wright's contract will bring them. Wright is also a better scorer in the low post than Brown but brings more intangibles.</div>

    They're definitely building for the future, but I think that keeping P.J. Brown's contract would make much more sense for them. They know they're not going to win right away, so cap space in 2007 would be more beneficial than cap space this offseason. Is Wright really the better scorer in the low post? Their numbers have been fairly similar, and from what I've seen, there's not much difference.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Hornets won't do the Wright/Brown trade straight up but as Shape said, a first round pick would be enough. Don't think that New Orleans would mind a young guy like Dahntay Jones or Antonio Burks either; although I don't know if West might want to give up on those two.</div>

    I'd give up Antonio Burks. He hasn't done anything for the team yet, and they have three other point guards more capable of running the team. Dahntay Jones has really emerged as a servicable player recently. West took a lot of criticism for drafting him really high and not playing him his first few seasons in the NBA, but so far this season he's averaging about 15 mpg; the other night he even scored 10 points on LeBron James. As for our draft pick, I wouldn't mind giving it up, especially since West's history of drafting is horrible.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">
    I'd give up Antonio Burks. He hasn't done anything for the team yet, and they have three other point guards more capable of running the team. </div>

    To be fair, he hasn't been given a chance to do anything for the team yet.

    He's third in line (no way Roberson is ahead of him), but the two in front of him are both 32, and one has had significant injury worries.

    If B-Jax gets hurt again, or Damon has a brainfade, Antonio will have a bit of value and may just get a chance to show us whether he's up to it.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">
    They're definitely building for the future, but I think that keeping P.J. Brown's contract would make much more sense for them. They know they're not going to win right away, so cap space in 2007 would be more beneficial than cap space this offseason. Is Wright really the better scorer in the low post? Their numbers have been fairly similar, and from what I've seen, there's not much difference.</div>I don't think there's a difference if the Hornets let Wright's contract run out in the summer of next year and just sit and wait for 2007. I'm pretty sure it would save them somewhere around $5 million, and for a team who as you said, isn't going to win anyways, maybe that savings can be appreciated by the team. The Hornets have never been profitable and as long as they don't sign somewhere next offseason, they'll have the same cap space in 2007.

    As for the scoring thing, my impression of Wright has always been someone who has some valid post moves. Brown, on the other hand, gets his points off putbacks and open jumpers from 15 feet out. Wright could at least create for himself, unlike Brown, who rarely takes the first shot in an offensive possession and gets minimal plays run for him.
     

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