Pats use ground game to win

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  1. CelticKing

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    Pats use ground game to win Spygate rematch vs. Jets</p>

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    FOXBOROUGH, Mass. (AP) -- Bad weather couldn't stop the Patriots' march toward an undefeated season.</p>

    Neither could the New York Jets.</p>

    Facing rain, wind and chilly gusts above 20 mph, New England and Tom Brady found a new way to win -- running and eating up the clock -- and beat the New York Jets 20-10 Sunday in the Spygate rematch.</p>

    Coach Bill Belichick brushed off the elements as a necessary nuisance, much like his usually cold postgame handshakes with Eric Mangini. The Jets coach, his former friend and protege, had turned him in for using a sideline videocamera in violation of NFL rules after the season opener.</p>

    But this time, their exchange was pleasant. Belichick smiled all the way from the sideline until he reached Mangini and appeared to say, "Great game, awesome," as they shook hands. Then Belichick walked away, pumping his first twice over his head.</p>

    The Patriots (14-0) stopped the sideline taping when they were nabbed in the first quarter of the first game, a 38-14 win over the Jets (3-11) at the Meadowlands. The coaches exchanged a quick, cold handshake at the end of that game, just as they had done after their two regular-season meetings last season.</p>

    The NFL fined Belichick $500,000 and the team $250,000 and took away their first-round draft choice next year for the illegal taping.</p>

    On Sunday, video helped the Patriots when they challenged a call of a 7-yard touchdown pass from Chad Pennington, who was in for the injured Kellen Clemens, to Justin McCareins with 2:32 left. Replay officials ruled he didn't get both feet in the back of the end zone. Then Mike Nugent missed a 35-yard field goal attempt.</p>

    With the win, New England clinched home field advantage throughout the AFC playoffs even though Brady failed to throw a touchdown pass for the first time this season. The Patriots remaining games are at home against Miami and at the New York Giants.</p>

    Laurence Maroney ran for 104 yards, just the fourth time this season a New England rusher surpassed 100. The Jets entered the game having allowed the third most yards rushing this season.</div></p>
     
  2. DolfanDale

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    Does anyone remember what I have been saying about the Patriots offense? Today went a long way to suggesting that I might be right about them.</p>
     
  3. CelticKing

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    Hey, they're still winning game and will continue to do so.</p>

    Today I was expecting somewhere around 50 points but the weather was a factor. (which a lot of people said so here on s2)</p>

    It looks like a close game, but it wasn't.</p>
     
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    Well, what I said was that this may be the Patriots most talented offense, but they may not be the offense best suited to the weather in Foxboro. What were Brady's stats today?</p>

    14-27-140-0-1</p>

    That got the job done against the Jets, but the Jets won't be in the playoffs. Maroney has only had 4-100 yard games, so can you really count on him to bail Jay Fiedle...I mean Tom Brady out if he has another day like today? (Sorry, the stats threw me.)</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    It looks like a close game, but it wasn't.</p>

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    Okay. I'll bite. How?</p>

    I'm so anxious to see the rationalization I mean spin.</p>
     
  6. CelticKing

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    Well did you watch the game?</p>
     
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    No. I did not see the game. All we got here in Utah today was a late game.... Colts/Raiders.</p>

    The good thing about Utah is its not Patriot-centric. The bad thing isthe Broncos are the regional team. </p>
     
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    Move to the East Coast. lol</p>
     
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    All this game proves is that Brady doesnt have the arm strength to throw will in bad weather. This isnt something new. He has always had trouble throwing in very windy conditions in foxboro</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Move to the East Coast. lol</p>

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    As much as I am enjoying this exchange (because I am a sick and twisted individual), I am afraid that I'm going to have to point out that you haven't exactly answered BA's question. (I hope I don't regret this.) How did this look like a close game, but wasn't. (Denny, I think I'm goint toneed to talk to you about the possibility of installing a mulligan feature.)</p>

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    Because of the score DolfanDale and Brady having an off game. (no td passes)</p>

    Simple as that. We could beat 3 Jets teams mixed together, and anyone thinking that they could have beat us simply doesn't know football or has never watched a game.</p>

    Again, we have shown we can beat the best out there and take whatever they throw at us and still win games. What more do you want?</p>

    As for BA, and even you, and thebeef.....tune in next game when your allmighty team plays our cheating team.</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Because of the score DolfanDale and Brady having an off game. (no td passes)</p>

    Simple as that. We could beat 3 Jets teams mixed together, and anyone thinking that they could have beat us simply doesn't know football or has never watched a game.</p>

    Again, we have shown we can beat the best out there and take whatever they throw at us and still win games. What more do you want?</p>

    As for BA, and even you, and thebeef.....tune in next game when your allmighty team plays our cheating team.</p>

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    Oh hush and go watch your illegal defensive signal tapes. You'll need them next week. The Dolphins just beat the Ravens and they didn't need help from the officials to do it.</p>

    Edit - You might want to gas up the snow plow while your at it.</p>

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  13. #1_War_Poet_ForLife

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Because of the score DolfanDale and Brady having an off game. (no td passes)</p>

    Simple as that. We could beat 3 Jets teams mixed together, and anyone thinking that they could have beat us simply doesn't know football or has never watched a game.</p>

    Again, we have shown we can beat the best out there and take whatever they throw at us and still win games. What more do you want?</p>

    As for BA, and even you, and thebeef.....tune in next game when your allmighty team plays our cheating team.</p>

    </div></p>

    Oh hush and go watch your illegal defensive signal tapes. You'll need them next week. The Dolphins just beat the Ravens and they didn't need help from the officials to do it.</p>

    Edit - You might want to gas up the snow plow while your at it.</p>

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    But you did need Storver to miss a 40 yarder.</p>
     
  14. DolfanDale

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mynetsforlife)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Because of the score DolfanDale and Brady having an off game. (no td passes)</p>

    Simple as that. We could beat 3 Jets teams mixed together, and anyone thinking that they could have beat us simply doesn't know football or has never watched a game.</p>

    Again, we have shown we can beat the best out there and take whatever they throw at us and still win games. What more do you want?</p>

    As for BA, and even you, and thebeef.....tune in next game when your allmighty team plays our cheating team.</p>

    </div></p>

    Oh hush and go watch your illegal defensive signal tapes. You'll need them next week. The Dolphins just beat the Ravens and they didn't need help from the officials to do it.</p>

    Edit - You might want to gas up the snow plow while your at it.</p>

    </p>

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    But you did need Storver to miss a 40 yarder.</p>

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    That's football. If Stover wants credit for a 40 yard fg, then he needs to make it. No one gives the Dolphinspoints for any missed field goals.</p>

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  15. #1_War_Poet_ForLife

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    Luck is luck. Not sure how much the Dolphins, influenced Stover missing the FG, besides field position.</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mynetsforlife)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Luck is luck. Not sure how much the Dolphins, influenced Stover missing the FG, besides field position.</p>

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    Luck has nothing to do with it. It's up to Stover to make the FG even if the Dolphins didn't get to it. If Stover missed the kick, then the Ravens don't deserve the FG. That's why they make the kickers kick the FG rather than just awarding points.</p>

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  17. Denny Crane

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Move to the East Coast. lol</p>

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    As much as I am enjoying this exchange (because I am a sick and twisted individual), I am afraid that I'm going to have to point out that you haven't exactly answered BA's question. (I hope I don't regret this.) How did this look like a close game, but wasn't. (Denny, I think I'm goint toneed to talk to you about the possibility of installing a mulligan feature.)</p>

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    I didn't get to see the game, and I have no dog in this hunt.</p>

    From what I see of the game recaps/stories and the box score, the Pats built up a nice lead at halftime and basically ran out the clock in the 2nd half. The stats look pretty even, but all that counts is the score. The Pats did what they needed to do to win, which was control the ball and not turn it over. The conditions were terrible, so turnovers would seem likely. It wasn't a day to use a conventional passing game, and the Pats didn't seem to try. They consumed the clock with the running game and forced the Jets to drive for a long time before holding them to a field goal (like, second half, the only score by the Jets).</p>

    In a dome, this probably would have been a blowout win. In the cold and a driving rain storm, a 10 point victory is a pretty good spread. And frankly, it was pretty much over at half-time.</p>

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Move to the East Coast. lol</p>

    </div></p>

    As much as I am enjoying this exchange (because I am a sick and twisted individual), I am afraid that I'm going to have to point out that you haven't exactly answered BA's question. (I hope I don't regret this.) How did this look like a close game, but wasn't. (Denny, I think I'm goint toneed to talk to you about the possibility of installing a mulligan feature.)</p>

    </div></p>

    </p>

    I didn't get to see the game, and I have no dog in this hunt.</p>

    From what I see of the game recaps/stories and the box score, the Pats built up a nice lead at halftime and basically ran out the clock in the 2nd half. The stats look pretty even, but all that counts is the score. The Pats did what they needed to do to win, which was control the ball and not turn it over. The conditions were terrible, so turnovers would seem likely. It wasn't a day to use a conventional passing game, and the Pats didn't seem to try. They consumed the clock with the running game and forced the Jets to drive for a long time before holding them to a field goal (like, second half, the only score by the Jets).</p>

    In a dome, this probably would have been a blowout win. In the cold and a driving rain storm, a 10 point victory is a pretty good spread. And frankly, it was pretty much over at half-time.</div></p>

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    Exactly what I meant.</p>

    For someone that didn't see the game it might look like a close game but it wasn't. The Jets never had a chance to win this game.</p>

    I really can't wait till our next game. (vs the fins)</p>

    Must watch game. [​IMG]</p>

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Move to the East Coast. lol</p>

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    If it were Virginia or southwards possibly. Otherwise, itwould be a fate worse than a fate worse than death.</p>

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Because of the score DolfanDale and Brady having an off game. (no td passes)</p>

    Simple as that. We could beat 3 Jets teams mixed together, and anyone thinking that they could have beat us simply doesn't know football or has never watched a game.</p>

    Again, we have shown we can beat the best out there and take whatever they throw at us and still win games. What more do you want?</p>

    As for BA, and even you, and thebeef.....tune in next game when your allmighty team plays our cheating team.</p>

    </div></p>

    Oh hush and go watch your illegal defensive signal tapes. You'll need them next week. The Dolphins just beat the Ravens and they didn't need help from the officials to do it.</p>

    Edit - You might want to gas up the snow plow while your at it.</p>

    </p>

    </div></p>

    Now theres a con-chair-to be proud of.</p>

    CK; you've finally ponied up & admitted who the best team is. It wasn't so hard or so bad to come clean; Was it? Of course not!</p>

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