Gotta go Vince here, not tryin to be biased, but I think hes the better all-around player and better pure scorer who can flat-out take over and hit some unbelievably tough shots. He can create a shot in situation where there appears to be nothing and he is very unselfish and great passer who is excellent at passing out of the double team and getting his teamattes open shots which really fits in with our team and the similar way that RJ and Kidd play. (In the past 5 games, the team has had 4 30+ assist games and in those games, assisted on 90%+ of the fg's made by the team)...Carter is a big part of the Nets success and he does a great job on both ends of the court, having improved his defense alot since he first came to the Nets. He plays with alot of energy and emotion and is a huge part of the Nets success..
im going with carter here to, he seems to know were he is on the courtand well he has that skill were he can go straight to the hoop withoutanyone stoping him and pierce wouldnt really match up against vince really.
Right now, it's tough, and a close comparison. I think Vince is a much more willing passer, however is not as tough once he gets in the lane. Vince is also a better post up player, yet Pierce has a superioir mid range jumper. Both can hit threes when called upon, and both can finish at the rim athletically. Both can also rebound decently, although Pierce is a better rebounder. This is so close it's not even funny, and I really can't decide right now
Pierce is just so efficent in almost every category of the game and he is so versatile, he could probably play any position except C. Has height and strength to play PF though. Has good ball-handling skills to run point. Can outmatch his opponents at the 2, and at SF is where he plays best. Gotta go with Pierce here.
I agree Zards, Pierce is simply more versatile. He could play the PG if really needed, and could play the 4 spot. Vince couldn't play the 4. I like Pierce after that statement
Paul. He is not just a scorer, he is a franchise player. I'll go into more detail later, but right now i'm freaking hungry.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hoopskidd5 @ Feb 18 2006, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Gotta go Vince here, not tryin to be biased, but I think hes the better all-around player and better pure scorer who can flat-out take over and hit some unbelievably tough shots. He can create a shot in situation where there appears to be nothing and he is very unselfish and great passer who is excellent at passing out of the double team and getting his teamattes open shots which really fits in with our team and the similar way that RJ and Kidd play. (In the past 5 games, the team has had 4 30+ assist games and in those games, assisted on 90%+ of the fg's made by the team)...Carter is a big part of the Nets success and he does a great job on both ends of the court, having improved his defense alot since he first came to the Nets. He plays with alot of energy and emotion and is a huge part of the Nets success..</div>did you see his game vs. Cleveland? Watch it and tell me Paul can't take over a game.And why are people saying VC is a more willing passer? Have you people seen Paul Pierce in the past two seasons? He's changed. Why do you think his fg% is so high? He's only taking the shots that he should be taking; He's not forcing the issue.
Paul. for the reasons listed above that i don't need to say again (pretty much versatility). and LMAO at the guy who said Vince was a more willing passer than Paul. i love Vince, this is no knock on him, but are u serious? he is a more willing passer than Paul? and even if it looked like he was... look at his teammates. RJ and J-Kidd. Paul has Wally and Delonte
Pierce is having a good year individually for Boston but hes been the only #1 option for that team.Carter has Kidd, RJ and Krstic on his team....who all demands the ball too and want their fair share of shots. Carter is a better player than pierce, his offensive arsenal is the most complete in the league. He can do everything offensively...Pierce is certainly better defensivly. Also looking at their whole career, Carter has Pierce numbers.And who said Pierce is more versatile than Carter? if he is, wouldnt Flip had had him in the starting line-up instead of Vince last night during the all-star game?
I say the 2 guys are just about = since they both score a lot, and both play tough D. But as you guys are saying, the teams that these guys are on do help them get better and currently, VC's got the upper hand since he's on a better team. As "hoopskidd5" said, Carter gets more asts since his team can finish plays which is limited on BOS.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hm01 @ Feb 20 2006, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I say the 2 guys are just about = since they both score a lot, and both play tough D. But as you guys are saying, the teams that these guys are on do help them get better and currently, VC's got the upper hand since he's on a better team. As "hoopskidd5" said, Carter gets more asts since his team can finish plays which is limited on BOS.</div>Have you seen him play? Vince plays good D? What are you talking about? He shows a poor effort on defense.
I have him on my fantasy team and I always c him with about 2-3 steals per game on average and IMO, that's pretty good.
That ain't defence. That's stealing balls int he passing lane. There's a difference. Bascially, playing defence means stopping a player from scoring or doing something. Stealing the ball involves gambling skills
Yeah AI was the stealing champ for years but that does not mean that he was a great on the ball defender. He would always go for the ball instead of guarding him. There is a huge difference there.
Obviously I'm going to say Pierce, but they are both very alike in means of body frame and overall career statistics. Pierce is definately more durable than Carter, probably a better defender, but Carter is an amazing offensive talent, he can be so explosive.
I say Vince I think he has a better shot, he can dunk way better and he is on a better team. I mean Paul Pierce is good but not has good has Vince.
I would say Vince Carter because he has been doing well with the nets and is averaging alot more than Paul is. So I go with Vince Carter.
VC torched the Bucks tonight with 45 points!!!! couple of sick baskets in the CLUTCH and a MONSTER ONE HANDED ALLEY-YOOP DUNK.
He went off in the second half..24 pts in the third quarter and the last 12 in to close out the game for the Nets..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Air Fly @ Feb 20 2006, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pierce is having a good year individually for Boston but hes been the only #1 option for that team.Carter has Kidd, RJ and Krstic on his team....who all demands the ball too and want their fair share of shots. Carter is a better player than pierce, his offensive arsenal is the most complete in the league. He can do everything offensively...Pierce is certainly better defensivly. Also looking at their whole career, Carter has Pierce numbers.And who said Pierce is more versatile than Carter? if he is, wouldnt Flip had had him in the starting line-up instead of Vince last night during the all-star game?</div>Oh my God.. :no3: Pierce shoots a better percentage than VC, so it doesn't matter that other players are demanding shots. If VC shoots less, he should have a higher percentage. And actually, i just looked it up and Vince Carter shoots the ball MORE than Paul Pierce anyways.Do you even watch Paul Pierce? He has a bigger repitoire on offense than Vince. You THINK Vince has more moves bc he finishes w/ a flashy dunk all the time, and Pierce just does anything to score. Paul has one of the more prominent mid-ranges in the league, and he's shooting over 36% form beyond the arc, not bad at all. And since when does it matter how they played in the past?? What matters is how they are playing NOW, that's what the comparison is.FYI, David Stern picked the starter to fill in for Jermaine O'Neal, not Flip. And since when does that matter anyway? they don't pick the starters for all-star games do to their versatility tard, they picked VC bc he's athletic and flashy.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Toronto_R@ptors?? @ Feb 21 2006, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would say Vince Carter because he has been doing well with the nets and is averaging alot more than Paul is. So I go with Vince Carter.</div>WHAT?? That's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. Paul Pierce is even averaging more than VC. He's doing well? Oh, I forgot how horrible Paul is doing with the Celtics.. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nick @ Feb 21 2006, 02:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I say Vince I think he has a better shot, he can dunk way better and he is on a better team. I mean Paul Pierce is good but not has good has Vince.</div>Oh, and dunking is the most important aspect of the game.. And what does it matter that he's on a better team? That just means he has a better supporting cast. It has nothing to do w/ that players abilities.
