Perhaps Antoine Walker?

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  1. MaxBallin

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The 76ers, said the source, are "desperate to get Walker." Philly coach Jim O'Brien [news] coached Walker when both were with the Celtics. </div> <div align="center">Full Story</div>

    HoopsHype, via the Boston Herald, says that the 76ers organization, and especially Coach Jim O'Brien, are very interested in attaining Atlanta Hawks forward Antoine Walker. In my opinion, even though Kenny Thomas has recently been picking up the pace, it would be a great move to unload his contract as part of a potential deal. Additionally, Walker is in the last season of his fat contract. Losing both his and Glenn Robinson's contract would be very beneficial to the 76ers.

    What are your thoughts?
     
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    This would be a bad move. Walker scores, but he shoots a bad percentage, and does not use his size like he is suppost to hanging around the perimeter to much. KK and Walker on the team jacking up threes thanks, but no thanks that would be a bad move in my opinion we would not get what we need which is size, and we would get another poor shooter that will attempt bad shots.
     
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    This doesn't seem like that bad of an idea. Walker is not the best defensive player, and he doesn't have much offensive post game at all. But as of know we could use him imo. Walker is going to score you points, and thats something we need right now, a person who will give you 20 every night.

    Of course the good will come with the bad, I know a lot of people question Walkers shot selection, and his tendacy to jack up a lot of three pointer's. You also have to look at the position he will play for us. If we trade Kenny thomas for him, who will we have to score in the low post?

    But you also have to look at the positives he would bring, he is a litle bigger then Thomas is so he will give us a little more size and more rebounding. I was actually suprised to se Walker averaging 20 points and 9 rebounds, he could fill in a lot of any spaces for us, we have problems rebounding and scoring and it looks ass if Toine is able to do both in the Eastern Confrence.

    Also as mentioned, if we some how make a trade for him, and he doesnt fin in are system, then we get contract space at the end of the season, so that's also a positive.

    I'm not sure if we should go after him, it could make or break are team. Toine also commits his share of turnovers, that could hurt team chemistry. I'm not sure if Atlanta really wants to give him up either, he is their leading scorer and rebounder so who would they want from us?
     
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    This doesn't seem like that bad of an idea. Walker is not the best defensive player, and he doesn't have much offensive post game at all. But as of now we could use him imo. Walker is going to score you points, and that?s something we need right now, a person who will give you 20 every night.

    Of course the good will come with the bad, I know a lot of people question Walkers shot selection, and his tendency to jack up a lot of three pointer's. You also have to look at the position he will play for us. If we trade Kenny Thomas for him, whom will we have to score in the low post?

    But you also have to look at the positives he would bring, he is a little bigger then Thomas is so he will give us a little more size and more rebounding. I was actually surprised to se Walker averaging 20 points and 9 rebounds, he could fill in a lot of empty spaces for us, we have problems rebounding and scoring and it looks as if Walker is able to do both in the Eastern Conference.

    Also as mentioned, if we some how make a trade for him, and he doesn?t fit in are system, we could then get contract space at the end of the season, so that's also a positive.

    I'm not sure if we should go after him, it could make or breaks are team. Toine also commits his share of turnovers, which could hurt team chemistry. I'm not sure if Atlanta really wants to give him up either, he is their leading scorer and rebounder so who would they want from us?
     
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    artest

    We should try to get someone like Artest or someone thats defensive minded. Especially since Artest is suspended this season we can trade some players in return for Artest and make a run for it next season and since we'll trade away our players for Artest then we'll have worse people playing which means we'll probably not make the playoffs. Which also means that we will be in the lottery!!
     
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    No, no and no. Antoine Walker is the most overrated player IMO. I will not even get to the reasons why I think that way. But all I have to say is that, Walker is not the answer to our solutions, simple as that. I could just see it now, Walker getting booed for his very idiotic turnovers, Walker causing the game etc. Just so many scenarios come to mind on the different way he will bring this team down. Some good answers to our solutions would be players such as Bonzi Wells, Lorenzen Wright and so on. Another flat-out scorer and a good rebounding big man would help this team so much.
     
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    Who are some of the good big man that will be availible in the offseason?
     
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    Anybody knows any site that has the free agent's during the offseason?besides the dynasty mode in NBA Live
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting iversonfan3:</div><div class="quote_post">Anybody knows any site that has the free agent's during the offseason?besides the dynasty mode in NBA Live</div>
    I do not know any site that gives you all of them listed, but if you go to hoopshype.com, and click salaries for each team. If there is no salary after next season next to there names they are free agents next season.
     
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    I would like to get rid Antoine of my hometeam. Pure Skillz is right he can get points but his shooting % sucks. Maybe we can get rid of his big contract and add a 76er that has potential. I hope that the 76er originazation is dumb enough tto do this trade.
     
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    we can do a trad, but who should we offer?A.I, daly no way!!!!!!!!!! but this guy will be upgrade from KT.
     
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    I saw this on Hoopshype but it looked like a fake article when I read it. Anyway, I wouldn`t do this trade. Walker is exactly like a Glenn Robinson player but Walker has better ballhandling skills. O`Brien must be really into this trade since Antoine and Obie were together in Boston.
     
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    We won't get Antoine,Jim and him will be always talked about if they aren't on the same team and Walker is always getting traded...I heard that Hawks are interested in keeping Walker.
    Soon we could start hearing that Paul Pierce is coming to Philly.
     
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    Yeah really, O'brien seems like he's turning the 76ers into the Celtics of last year. The entire team has basically adapted to his needs such as trying to bring in Blount, playing Korver so much when he's terribly inconsistent, lining up the roster with three point shooters, and now this talk about Walker coming to town. Sure, this is an upgrade over last year, but I don't really see the team going any where with this route. Okay, back to the topic. I really don't want to see Walker here. His shooting percentage is horrible, thinks he can hit threes (and doesn't make them), and just not good for this team. Besides, how can we possibly get him? I really wouldn't want to trade Thomas for him, or any of our future players for that matter (Korver, Green, Salmons, Dalembert). Sure, they may not be doing great now, but in a few years they should (I hope) be more consistent.
     
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    I don't want Antoine Walker, what does he bring to the table that Glenn Robinson doesn't? He can shoot the three a little better but thats about it. They can both score, both can't play D, and both are pigs let face it. I just hope Billy King doesn't do something stupid again like trade Dalembert and Robinson for him. That would be the worst, and I think that we can form angry mod outside of Wacovia Center [​IMG]
     
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    Antone Walker to Philadelphia? There would definitely not be enough shots for Allen Iverson and Antoine Walker. The Sixers could use a PF but, I don't think Walker will fill in that void. Try getting someone with more of a post presence who is a team player
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtKing:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't want Antoine Walker, what does he bring to the table that Glenn Robinson doesn't? He can shoot the three a little better but thats about it. They can both score, both can't play D, and both are pigs let face it. I just hope Billy King doesn't do something stupid again like trade Dalembert and Robinson for him. That would be the worst, and I think that we can form angry mod outside of Wacovia Center [​IMG]</div>
    They are basically the same players expect Walker actually plays. Like many people have said in this thread he is not the fit for Philadelphia. I would not give KT for him, but if we could get him for Robinson straight up (which I highly doubt) I would do it. I do not think the Hawks would want him though since he was a Hawk once before, and did not perform well in his one season there. If they would want him it would be merly for his expiring contract. Which is another reason they would not want to get KT he has a big contract over the next couple seasons I believe something that I do not think the Hawks want on there cap.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah really, O'brien seems like he's turning the 76ers into the Celtics of last year. The entire team has basically adapted to his needs such as trying to bring in Blount, playing Korver so much when he's terribly inconsistent, lining up the roster with three point shooters, and now this talk about Walker coming to town. Sure, this is an upgrade over last year, but I don't really see the team going any where with this route. Okay, back to the topic. I really don't want to see Walker here. His shooting percentage is horrible, thinks he can hit threes (and doesn't make them), and just not good for this team. Besides, how can we possibly get him? I really wouldn't want to trade Thomas for him, or any of our future players for that matter (Korver, Green, Salmons, Dalembert). Sure, they may not be doing great now, but in a few years they should (I hope) be more consistent.</div>
    Thank You. I have noticed this same thing since the start of the season. Something that scared me was when JO said earlier in theyear he was the best thing to ever happen to Kyle Korver. Right there a green light in my head went off hoping he was not planning on using Korver as he did Walker. Korver makes more threes then Walker did, but you know what they say "live by the three. Die by the three" that is what KK's game has been when he is on he is decent. When he is not he is horrible. One night he could be a great second option the next he will be shooting like Ollie.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting The Hogg:</div><div class="quote_post">I saw this on Hoopshype but it looked like a fake article when I read it. Anyway, I wouldn`t do this trade. Walker is exactly like a Glenn Robinson player but Walker has better ballhandling skills. O`Brien must be really into this trade since Antoine and Obie were together in Boston.</div>
    I do not think that the article would have been fake. A lot of articles I read from there most of the time come from big news papers. True they tend to stretch the truth, but the next day it may be on espn or nba.com. What hoopshype does that makes a lot of people wonder at time is they report the news as soon as it is heard while espn and nba try to confirm it.

    One reason why I think JO is still so glued on Walker is because of the attitude he had in that playoff eastern finals game against the Nets that led Boston on that come back. i think JO feels Walker could bring that to Philadelphia, but he doesnt see the negatives in Walker, and the positive leaders we already have.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting The_Game46:</div><div class="quote_post">we can do a trad, but who should we offer?A.I, daly no way!!!!!!!!!! but this guy will be upgrade from KT.</div>
    There is not even the slimmest chance AI would be involved in even a trade rumor at this point in the year. If we where trading anyone for Walker it would probably be either Robinson, KT, or SD not all three, but two of them may be talked in rumors. Though I hope no trade goes down especially not with SD in it.

    I do not think tha Walker is a improvement over KT. What areas is Walker really better than as a POWER FORWARD then KT. Walker for a big man and any player as a matter a fact has a horrible percentage from the field. Last year KT averaged a double double he has not done the same this season, but he has not recieved the consistant minutes so far this season as he did last year. He is a better rebounder than Walker. Although, Walker gives you more points he takes a hell of a lot more shots to do it.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sonic1:</div><div class="quote_post">I would like to get rid Antoine of my hometeam. Pure Skillz is right he can get points but his shooting % sucks. Maybe we can get rid of his big contract and add a 76er that has potential. I hope that the 76er originazation is dumb enough tto do this trade.</div>
    I think this trade would be dumb for the Sixers depending who they give up, because lets say they hypathetically get him without giving up Robinson now we have two very big contracts expiring at the end of the season so we could resign players like SD, and go after players like Cuttino Mobely, Michael Redd, Tyson Chandler, etc.
     
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    Walker is an upgrade over KT cuz he gets the system better than him, also look at his stats, its all-star stat! Also if this does not work-out aint Walker free-agent next year?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting The_Game46:</div><div class="quote_post">Walker is an upgrade over KT cuz he gets the system better than him, also look at his stats, its all-star stat! Also if this does not work-out aint Walker free-agent next year?</div>
    That is an excellent point. But, I think if the Sixers want to make a playoffs this season, it is in their bestn interest to keep things the way they are. Although O'Brien is his old coach, I do not think he compliments the team. Him and Iverson are kind of those players that games might clash a bit. If Philadelphia wants a solid PF they should look at other options.
     

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