Philadelphia Eagles' hire of Chip Kelly could be worst in NFL history

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  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Now that the Philadelphia Eagles have reeled in perhaps the biggest fish on the coaching market, I am going on the record calling Chip Kelly one of the worst hires in pro football history.
    Yes, worse than Steve Spurrier, the old ball coach who is one of college football's top offensive minds ever but who failed miserably in the NFL, going 12-20 in two seasons with the Washington Redskins (2002-'03). Kelly, too, is a dynamic college head coach, but what he's about to bring to the NFL simply won't work, and here's three reasons why:
    1. Swoosh, there it isn't
    For the past four years, Kelly has had the biggest recruiting advantage ever known to a college coach. His name is Phil Knight, the CEO of Nike and a major University of Oregon donor and school alumnus who pumps millions of dollars into the football program each year. Despite the enormous benefits of this relationship, Kelly has yet to bring a BCS title to Eugene.
    In four years with the Ducks, he has a 46-7 record, but has never finished higher than third in the polls, including 2010 when he lost to Auburn in the BCS National Championship game. In the NFL, you don't get 10 first-round picks, and in Philly, the league's best free agents aren't lining up to join the Eagles.
    2. Out-coached by Stanford
    A month and a half ago, Stanford beat Oregon 17-14 to ruin the Ducks' hopes for a perfect season. Stanford defensive coordinator Derek Mason had 20 working hours that week (mandated by the NCAA, which includes practice, weightlifting, and meetings) to prepare for this so-called NFL-ready offense, and he held them to two touchdowns, 4-of-17 on third down, 0-for-2 on fourth down, and forced a turnover.
    I love the discipline and structure that Jim Harbaugh installed at Stanford and that current head coach David Shaw and Mason have continued. And they've done it with much less athletic players than what Kelly has enjoyed at Oregon. If Kelly's high-powered offense could only manage 14 points against Stanford, how will this offense work in the NFL, where all teams -- more or less - are on equal footing?
    3. QBs exposed to injuries
    If we've learned one thing this season in the NFL, it's that you can't expose your franchise quarterback to vicious and violent hits. I'm sure the RG3 phenomenon is adding to the Chip Kelly hype but Robert Griffin III has been knocked out of a game once by concussion and once from a brutal hit from Baltimore Ravens NT Haloti Ngata that could've been worse than an LCL sprain. One more concussion for RG3 and he would have been watching from the bench the rest of the season.
    Quarterback Marcus Mariota carried the ball 106 times in 13 games for Kelly this season at Oregon. Overall, Oregon quarterbacks have rushed the ball 464 times in Kelly's four seasons with the Ducks. I'm not sure he can maintain that in the NFL against much bigger, quicker and faster defensive players without losing a quarterback -- be it Michael Vick, Geno Smith or anyone else -- to injury for a significant amount of time.
    The game is constantly changing in small ways, but the basis of championship football will always be physical and mental toughness in the NFL, not gadget offensive schemes. When Kelly and his Oregon squads have faced physically tough and defensively sound teams that the NCAA has to offer, they have not fared well.
    Sure, Oregon kept it close against Auburn in the 2010 title game and the Ducks didn't do so badly against LSU last year either. But "keeping it close" and "not so bad" will only get you one thing in the NFL: fired.


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    SlyPokerDog, Jan 16, 2013
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  2. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Wow, this guy is just a hater.
     
    SlyPokerDog, Jan 16, 2013
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  3. JFizzleRaider

    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

    Yeah. Maybe Kelly boned his mom?

    Kelly is a good coach. Im sure he will adjust his style a little for the pros.
     
    JFizzleRaider, Jan 16, 2013
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  4. BoBoBREWSKI

    BoBoBREWSKI BURP!

    I think Chip could be great in the NFL with a QB like RGIII, R.Wilson, Colin K.
     
    BoBoBREWSKI, Jan 16, 2013
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  5. JFizzleRaider

    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

    I think a motivated Vick with a coach actually supporting him would do great under chip
     
    JFizzleRaider, Jan 16, 2013
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  6. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Or a Tom Brady.
     
    SlyPokerDog, Jan 16, 2013
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  7. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

    Kelly will be fine. I'm just glad he's out of Eugene.
     
    tlongII, Jan 16, 2013
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  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    But the Eagles don't have one of those.... and Mike Vick is too old to be that guy.
     
    Natebishop3, Jan 16, 2013
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  9. STOMP

    STOMP mere fan

    More likely he was just assigned the counter article by his boss so he grasped at whatever straws he could readily find. Pretty ridiculous hyperbole tho
    STOMP
     
    STOMP, Jan 16, 2013
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  10. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    There is a large part of the old guard that doesn't like what Chip brings to the table. You saw it with that article I posted bitching about the Pats offense. They don't like the hurry up, no huddle, run and gun offense. Personally, I've been spoiled by it. I watch a regular NFL game and it's too slow for me now. I get bored :lol:
     
    Natebishop3, Jan 16, 2013
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  11. 3RA1N1AC

    3RA1N1AC 00110110 00111001

    1.eagles get all manner of free agents, this is dumb

    2. so was stanford outcoached by washington? :lol:

    3. colin kaepernick, russell wilson, cam newton, rg3, etc...sure these guys might take a pounding, just like tom brady missed a season with a knee injury while standing in the pocket

    dumb
     
    3RA1N1AC, Jan 16, 2013
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  12. 3RA1N1AC

    3RA1N1AC 00110110 00111001

    eagles have some serious talent, and i expect chip has a few tricks up his sleeve
     
    3RA1N1AC, Jan 16, 2013
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  13. Nate Dogg

    Nate Dogg Active Member

    What about Mike Riley? He did horrible in the NFL and his stints ended quickly.
     
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    Nate Dogg, Jan 16, 2013
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  14. oldmangrouch

    oldmangrouch persona non grata

    Steve Spurrier, great college offensive genius, won 14 games in the NFL.

    Kelly and the Eagles will wind up regreting this. I just hope it doesn't set the Ducks back too badly.
     
    oldmangrouch, Jan 16, 2013
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  15. PapaG

    PapaG Banned User BANNED

    Chip ran a pass-first spread offense at New Hampshire when Ricky Santos was their QB. Pretty close to what New England is running right now.

    The lack of knowledge by these NFL 'experts' is hilarious to me. I do agree with the post that said somebody was supposed to just write a 'hater' article.
     
    PapaG, Jan 16, 2013
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  16. Sinobas

    Sinobas Banned User BANNED

    This could be one of the worst articles in the history of the NFL. Not that I necessarily think Chip will succeed, but the reasons given here are bullshit.

    #1. Not winning a national title doesn't mean you're won't succeed in the NFL any more than winning one means you will do well. See Jim Harbaugh/Steve Spurrier.

    #2. Uhh...ok, this point is beyond lame. Name one coach who has never lost? Ridiculous argument.

    #3. During the Chips tenure, how much has QB injury been a problem? Mariota didn't take may licks this year. Colin Kapernick of the 49ers had almost 200 yards rushing last week, and didn't take any big hits. It's all a matter of getting down or getting out or bounds.
     
    Sinobas, Jan 17, 2013
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  17. Ghost Pepper

    Ghost Pepper Active Member

    You can't run two deep in the NFL at the pace Chip did with Oregon. Not enough players on the roster and tempo will be hamstringed with commercials, instant replay and challenges. Every team will fake injuries at key times to slow things down, plus at this level your OL and DL has to have size to be effective. Good luck pushing Oregon pace with 6'6 325 pound hogs who've been trained on a pro style offensive scheme!
     
    Ghost Pepper, Jan 19, 2013
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  18. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    The Patriots seem to be doing okay with it.
     
    Natebishop3, Jan 19, 2013
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  19. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

    Patriots and Ducks offense aren't close to the same. Patriots offense has aspects that are similar to Oregon, but not close to the same.
     
    MickZagger, Jan 19, 2013
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  20. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    And why would it be outside the realm of possibility that Chip would adopt an offense similar to NE? I don't think anyone is saying that Chip is going to go full Duck mode in the NFL.
     
    Natebishop3, Jan 19, 2013
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