The suns signed quentin richardson. PG: Steve Nash SG:Quentin Richardson SF: Shawn Marion PF: Amare Stoudamire C: ??? pretty sick team if you ask me.
MY LORD! PHOENIX IS ON FIRE! At this rate they could be TITLE CONTENDERS - YES I SAID IT! THEY NEED A CENTER AND A DEEPER BENCH BUT THIS TEAM HAS IMPROVED GREATLY! GREAT MOVE!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Knicks Analyst:</div><div class="quote_post">MY LORD! PHOENIX IS ON FIRE! At this rate they could be TITLE CONTENDERS - YES I SAID IT! THEY NEED A CENTER AND A DEEPER BENCH BUT THIS TEAM HAS IMPROVED GREATLY! GREAT MOVE!</div>You can't be considered a title contender with no center and no chemistry.
I don't get it, this is old news, unless you're saying the Clippers decided not to match, but apart from that we already knew this. This just puts a stack of players at the 2 and 3, definately doesn't make us title contenderes, signing a center would make title contenders. JJ should start over Q because he's a much better defender and all-round player, and then what are we doing signing a backup for 8 million. I see a trade coming or some stupidness by the management.
og15 and Rudeezy- We have yet to see whether these guys can play together, not to mention how they can adapt to their select roles on their team. I mentioned that they need a Center. BUT if they do indeed pick up a good center- THEN THEY ARE TITLE CONTENDERS.
I dont think they are title conteders yet,but they will deffiantly will be a better team,the reason the Clipps wont match ,is (of course) of Kobe Bryant.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Knicks Analyst:</div><div class="quote_post"> I mentioned that they need a Center. BUT if they do indeed pick up a good center- THEN THEY ARE TITLE CONTENDERS.</div> Easier said than done. Throw some names out there that could/would go to the Suns.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KingCarmelo:</div><div class="quote_post">Sign Dampier!!</div>Sign and trade?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">You can't be considered a title contender with no center and no chemistry.</div> My thought exactly. Espcially out west. If they were here in the east I would say they had a pretty good chance at a title run, but with no center out west. Along with a still maturing amare and a shawn marion who performed horriblily his last time in the playoffs. Q who shoots under 40 percent a game. Also nash who is sort of one dementional in terms of he cant rebound much. I dont think they can make it past the first round. Who is there first player off the bench gona be joe johnson yes he is an ok player probable there version of derek fisher next season, but that line up wont cut it. If the lakers couldnt do it with 4 hall of fame players... what is to say the suns can do it with a young in mature line up like that. With poor shooting(Q-RICH). Lack of rebounding (Nash). Also lack of maturity in the nba (amare). Also an unproven playoff player (marion). There good players and a good lineup but to call them title contenders now would be ignorent. There is houston with yao who is still developing but they have now got tmac a guy that is a proven all star. They got howard a vet player. A young point in gaines and are the leading team to get fisher. Then there is of course the TWOLVES who have the top scoring trio in the nba. The MVP who averages a double double. A deep bench with good defenders. Two all stars last year. Possible hudson healthy and hassel if he resigns. They would have to much depth for the suns. Then the spurs who are often over looked. They still have duncan and parker the core of the team. They will probable resign bowen and wont lose much this off season. They would be a title conteder over the suns. Who knows what the lakers will do this off season. But for the simple fact they were just in the finals you have to consider them a title contender over the suns. Then dallas may get shaq who nows what they will do, but if they get shaq they would be considered a title contender over the suns. There are so many teams you have to consider a title conteder over the suns. To call them one now is ludacris.
I wonder if they are piling on players to make an offer towards shaq...I dont know this log jam at the guard spot has me confused.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post"> Lack of rebounding (Nash).</div> why the heck does it matter if a PG can rebound or not???? you are making absolutely no sense. I think phoenix will be better than last year, but yes you are right they will not be a title contender against minnesota, sacramento, or san antonio. They will probablly be as good as mepmphis or denver was last year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting subrock:</div><div class="quote_post">why the heck does it matter if a PG can rebound or not???? you are making absolutely no sense. I think phoenix will be better than last year, but yes you are right they will not be a title contender against minnesota, sacramento, or san antonio. They will probablly be as good as mepmphis or denver was last year.</div> Hard to be worse than what they were last year in my opinion. But, beyond that, this doesn't make all that much sense. Do they really need him? They already have Johnson, and signing someone for that amount of money to possibly be a back up, that doesn't make sense. There could be another reason behind this because they really don't need another shooting guard. But who knows. About them being contenders, in the West, you need a legit big man to be considered a contender. They currently don't have one. Amare is good, but, he's not a true center. He's more of a power forward with his size. Granted it puts them one step closer, they're still not contenders. They might have a team good enough to get around a 6 or 7 seed next year. But, this is all assuming the chemistry is good. That's one thing that will definitely have to worked out for this to succeed.
I think they should look at sending a package of Shawn Marion and Keon Clark for Samuel Dalembert, Greg Buckner and Aaron McKie (the latter two for cap purposes alone). Yes, Dalembert is a calculated gamble, but the loss of Marion is surely softened by the acquisition of Richardson. Plus, Phoenix land the center they are crying out for: Nash/Barbosa Johnson/Jacobsen Richardson/Carbarkapa Stoudemire/Lampe Dalembert/Voshkuhl Philadelphia go hyper athletic - Iguodala and Marion on the wings, Clark in the middle. Wow. By losing the Buckner and McKie deals, they increase their cap flexiblity, i.e. they may become a player in the future FA market (centers): Iverson/Snow Iguodala/Salmons Marion/Korver Thomas/Skinner Clark/Jackson Calculated risks by both ballclubs, but I think it would see them both return to the playoffs.
Man, damn clipps.. MATCH THE OFFER. Q is the only player that's wanted to stay a clipper so let him stay a clipper and I want to see how him and Shaun played together.....
I don't think the Suns would ever do that. Marion is far too good and Dalembert isn't what we would call a top line center. So, that's not just a calculated risk, that's a huge risk. Cause, if they did that, they would be sending a superstar in Marion for someone who is still developing and hasn't fully proven himself to be a good center in Dalembert. Plus, he's in the East currently, where the big men aren't nearly as big. So, that'd be a change for him. And to top it off, not only would the Suns be sending away a superstar in Marion in this deal, they'd potentially be getting absolutely nothing back if Dalembert busts. So, that's a terrible deal in my opinion. Sure, it frees up cap space, but, overall, it's not a good deal for the Suns at all.
So much for Kobe going to the Clips....I'm sure he doesn't want to go to Clipper Hell without QRich around, thats 17 PPG gone right there. This team is starting to look nasty...they might pull a worst-to-first and this is the time to do it with the Lakers weakening and no dominant team in the West.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think the Suns would ever do that.</div> I don't thinkthey'll pay Quentin Richardson $50 million to warm the bench, either. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">Marion is far too good and Dalembert isn't what we would call a top line center. So, that's not just a calculated risk, that's a huge risk. Cause, if they did that, they would be sending a superstar in Marion for someone who is still developing and hasn't fully proven himself to be a good center in Dalembert.</div> Dalembert is hot property in the league. Many would describe Marion as a borderline All-Star than a superstar, big difference IMO. As I said, Phoenix isn't going to sit on their rotation of QRich, JJ and Marion, so this is very much a calculated risk, given the first two can deliver you 16/6/6, and still very much have upside. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">And to top it off, not only would the Suns be sending away a superstar in Marion in this deal, they'd potentially be getting absolutely nothing back if Dalembert busts.</div> They'll be no different to the team they have currently. Shawn Marion is their most expensive player, and to be quite frank... is surplus to needs. With Amare Stoudemire, this team can challenge for many titles in the future but not without a legit presence at the center. Dalembert can give that, and then some. He doesn't have to be a megastar, just play an efficient role, like Nash, JJ, QRich and all the foreigners will have to do around Amare.
