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  1. THE HCP

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    Patrick Ewing- 20pts/9rebs/2.1blks

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    Just some #'s to think about for the next 30 days!
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    I see some #1 picks that are missing from that list
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    like Kwame?!?!
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    He was approaching it from the side of what players who proved successful did in their rookie seasons, not what top picks did in their rookie seasons.
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    Kwame and Olowokandi weren't exactly "big time".
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    I didn't title it #1 picks and their rookie numbers. I wanted to look at centers that probably had as much or more hype then Greg is getting from us and how they performed their rookie season.
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    Then you are still missing some
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    My memory goes far beyond them
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    I know what he was doing and it is called cherry picking
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    Listen, i didn't name it EveryFuckingCenterToPlayTheGameAndTheirAverages. Why are you being a prick? I just thought I would throw some interesting #'s out their so we could discuss them, and you come on here being a jerk.
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    What is cherry picking even mean anyway?
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    Because you are doing yourself a disservice by being inaccurate in only focusing on the good, and not the bad...

    ...which was previously said here
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    How am I being inaccurate by choosing hall of fame centers? People around here already have Greg headed to the Hall. I started a thread to show how amazing these guys were their rookie years and what people will compare Greg's #'s to.
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    Attempt to put some context around them. Age, number of years playing in college, stats their last season in college.
     
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    ...but not the bad, not the failures. If people are already saying Greg could be headed to the hall, you must be steadfast and include the possibility that he is not. If other great centers have achieved such heights you must be resilient to such hype and consider that Oden is not apart of this group. Just because he has hype, does not guarantee that he will have success. You must be vigilant in your praise in order to achieve an objective perspective and ultimately, allow yourself the greatest chance of accuracy.
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    Numbers without context aren't interesting. I believe Greg will be one of the all time greats at his position, but this is just a horribly biased sample. It is as bad as the people that attempted to compare Greg to Yinka Dare before the draft.
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    Never mind. Just have somebody lock the thread then if it's so bad. I came over here excited to post with all these guys and you come on here and fucking critique me and how I start threads. Of all the horseshit threads floating around on here and you come and give me pointers. No thanks man.
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    It depends on the purpose of the exercise. If the purpose was to predict how good Oden will be by comparing him to others, then it is cherry-picking. If the point was simply to show where past great players were in their rookie seasons, as a baseline for what Oden needs to accomplish to be on that track, then it is not cherry-picking.
     
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    There's no need to take any general critique personally. Cpawfan has already said he considers Oden to be a great prospect, and I too share that sentiment. Rather, we see an injustice being made toward an objective opinion and would rather you support an agreeable opinion by more supportive means.
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    I'm responding to your posts, not critiquing you. There is nothing personal in my responses.

    I fail to see how disagreeing with you that those stats are an adequate basis to project Oden's stats isn't a discussion of the topic. Were you expecting only a rah rah thread?
     
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