Plausible destinations for our vets?

Simon’s is on a bad contract? News to me
Jerami Grant has value. His contract won’t be an issue to trade to a contender

I’m confused as to what your point is? You talk about Norman powell being a good value contract. Great…Norman Powell is not bringing you back more than Simon’s or grant. What are these contracts doing that is hindering the blazers from doing anything? You want cap space? that would be an odd decision to the free agency route.

Aytons contract is a max salary slot. In order to make a potential trade for a big name you’re gonna have to have one.
You look at this through a very small lens.

between those 3 we’re getting more positive assets, like it or not.
We have sharpe, clingan, toumani and I’ll still count scoot for now.
we have another lottery pick in one of the best drafts in a long time.
The pick we got from the bucks is rated the highest valued future pick and we have another pick we traded for in the top 5 most valuable.

ther is something to say for good vets in the locker room to help the young guys.

Hold onto your shorts bud…it’s a part of the process.
They’ll all likely be gone by the summer

 

I'd be surprised if any team traded for Simons and his 27M/year contract in order to make him a 6th man. Looking around the league most teams don't have any backups or 6th men making over 15M; most are 10M or less

 

My point is smart teams like the Thunder or Spurs didn't acquire vets like Cronin did in a rebuild.... they use cap space on getting assets that help the franchise build long term. Or they take time to flip a useful two way vet like Powell for a pick.

Powell is leading the Clippers in scoring on great efficiency and somehow has them with a winning record. He is certainly worth more in a trade today than Grant or Simons. If you have such rose colored glasses you can't see that I'm not sure what else to tell you.

 

Good point. I think the hope with trying to trade Simons is another team has a similar sized contract for an injured or irrelevant player(s). Then Simons deal which expires next year doesn't cost much as they are just exchanging it with a sunk cost. That was my idea with the Bulls example as Ball is injured and it doesn't appear they will have any cap space next summer. Not sure who else is injured around the league - or we'll have to see who might get injured by the deadline. Those could open up additional options.

The Blazers are not going to find a team with good contracts like the Thunder trading for Simons.

 

Exactly. A rental.

Teams every year are looking for that player at the deadline that can get them over the hump.

 

I absolutely hated that we traded Powell for nothing. Go back on here and you can see that I was one of the biggest proponents of Powell. I thought it was one of Olshey’s best trades.

When Cronin traded away Powell for the return he got was when I really soured on Cronin. Such a stupid trade. He has a reputation of getting fleeced by other GM’s. Once they know they can walk all over a GM they’re like sharks in water.

 

I mean I get what you’re saying but…
We signed Simon’s to a solid deal when he was 23? Grant we signed because Dame wanted him back. Dame kinda screwed us there

Ayton came back to make salaries work in the trade that we got toumani in…seems like a good deal to me
You can’t tell me Nurk for Ayton and Camara was not a smart move

Norman Powell is not more valuable than jerami grant. Absolutely no chance..we’re not gonna see eye to eye there

 

Starting to seriously wish the Blazers would have the balls of Stan Van Gundy ten years ago and just waive Anfernee and eat his salary.

 

Yeah that was crazy the Pistons did that. Thats why you don't give a coach GM powers though. Josh actually played well for the Rockets later that year and the Pistons were just as irrelevant before and after.

I certainly wouldn't waive Ant/Ayton. Lets say we get past this trade deadline and they are still here - we could ask them to agree on a large buyout and if they don't agree we say were going to bench them.

They might be able to be traded next summer so a full $ release this year would be horrible strategically. I certainly think next year if we still cant find a trade we would explore buyouts or releasing them. Horrible to think of them both still in Blazer jerseys 14 months from now though.

 

Not many Lakers trades make sense as it won't make them a contender. About the only one I can see them maybe being interested in is a Jimmy Bulter deal. We should try to get in on a trade and do something like this;

 

If Portland can flip everything outside of Rui for an additional first, this is great work

 

These aren't the good vets you want in the locker room...

Learn to be one of the worst defenders in the NBA from Simons.

Learn to be one of the worst rebounders in the NBA from Grant.

Learn that getting your bag matters more than anything else from Ayton.

These are vets that could be salvageable if you had a good team built around them with good leaders. You don't want your young team learning from them.

 

Isn't it crazy folks think Ant has a bad contract when you look around the league at other contracts and the fact that he will be on a expring contract next year...some of these posters say the most cringe stuff and just spit out negative nonsense 24/7 like their angry at the world lol

 

lmao, so wrong, the Spurs are in a rebuild right now and they signed old man CP3 and got Barnes on theier team in the off season

 

The Spurs traded Derrick White and Dejounte Murray for a haul of picks. Then they got a draft pick for adding Barnes and signed CP3 for the minimum. I'd be ecstatic if those were the type of deals Cronin was doing. If you think that's similar to paying Ayton the max or Grant $160 million - again not sure what to tell you.

 

Peyton Pritchard

Not being a homer but this guy should be a starter in this league and I would seriously consider a trade for him to become our starting point. Great shooter, does good job running offense maybe a defensive liability but not because of effort.

Would Boston consider a trade? Would we consider trade if so what players? What’s their weakness maybe bigs?

to soon to give up on scoot, I still think he’s going to be good starter but I value old school pgs so I’d consider it

 

Several sources told ESPN in recent weeks they aren’t sure any players making more than the low $20 million range will be traded this season. That means there could be no guarantees of better deals coming along closer to the deadline if something appealing comes up sooner.

 

I'd definitely consider it if we don't have a PG by the time the rest of the team is built out.

Any trades right now need to bring back draft picks. We still need to add a lot of talent to this roster before we start trading for pieces to fill holes.

 

No thanks. Great bu guard though. Much more interested in bigger, better defending PGs.

 

Yeah I’m not 100% on board with the idea and it’s my idea lol. I do believe a good PG makes the game easier for other players so getting a guy like Pritchard would make guys like Sharpe and Clingan better now but would hate to give up on Scoot to soon and with deep draft probably better off waiting to see what happens.

My biggest fear is we are going to go the whole year with Scoot as bench player and not really know if he’s our PG of the future. I’d rather dive into the deep end with him as starter and know if he’s our guy.