Who were some players affected by racism when growing up and how? I bring this up because many of the players in this league are African American, and because of that they must have gone through racism, some more than others. That brings me to my next question...which African American players were affected by racism the most? I dont mean just being name called, I'm talking about not being able to participate in activites, events, leagues because they were black. I would like to learn about this and a good way to learn isn't just by re-searching, but asking for other peoples thoughts, opinions and insights on the subject. So if anyone would like to share something about this feel free to post or give a name.
i remeber watching a movie about mohammed ali(b4 ali game out) and it showed him just winning a huge match and then going into the resturant and the owner was like great fight im a huge fan and all this stuff and then ali was like can i have a table and the guy was like no only whites are alound to eat in here blacks can only order..........i think in the nba though racism mite be more towards whites cause theres not many,i remeber i was at the courts with my friends and this white kid was picked last and this kid scored like all this teams points, also theres alot of sterotypes that whites cant play like they cant jump and stuff so its all in the way you look at it
If you want to know what racism was really like I highly recommend you to Watch the movie: Unforgivable Blackness: The Rise and Fall of Jack Johnson. Unforgiveable Blackness are series of documentaries done by PBS. Jack Johnson was the first african american heavyweight Champion of the World. This the best documentary you will ever see. It is narrated by Samuel L. Jackson. It offers an amazing look at racism during this era. Equally as fascinating is how the media treated Johnson. LINK http://www.pbs.org/unforgivableblackness/ You might be able to catch it on cable. If not rent the movie or dvd. It's worth the money. Very entertaining and educative. If anyone else has seen it, I'm sure they will tell you the same.
don't mean to offend anyone, but doesn't samuel L. Jackson kill the vibe of a documentary or anything? I mean its Samuel L. JAckson, the way he talks(and cusses people UP!). On a related note(ut a sensitive subject): why is the majority of the NBA and some other sports African American? I don't want ignorant comments, but I know this strikes peoples's curiosity. As for racism., I don't think alotof people have faced that much, however I'm sure there has ben a player's fair share. I'm sure it's still a very sensitive issue. The most recent event that would bring me to this wouuld be JO's (albeit somewaht stupid) comment that said the age limit had to dowith race.
Look no further than my best friend Yao Ming. People are always saying he didn't live up to expectations. Damn people, he's no Oscar or Wilt. People say he was 'too nice' just because he was born and raised in a more respectful manner. I remember a lot of people I knew said that Jason Williams played "too black." But, with that being said, the game of basketball is evolving to the point that in a few years, hopefully, racism will be a thing of the past.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">i think in the nba though racism mite be more towards whites cause theres not many,i remeber i was at the courts with my friends and this white kid was picked last and this kid scored like all this teams points, also theres alot of sterotypes that whites cant play like they cant jump and stuff so its all in the way you look at it</div> No kidding. I'd say Larry Bird caught more racism than just about any other player in the NBA. Players were constantly calling him out and saying he wouldn't be considered so great if he were black. It even often escaladed to violence on the court. If Bird, possibly the greatest player of all time, was thought of as just an average player by many black players, then I can only imagine what the how the smaller name players were thought of. By the way, why all of a sudden the interest in racism? Is it just me, or is this the third or fourth thread in the last few months trying to make America and the NBA look racist? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I remember a lot of people I knew said that Jason Williams played "too black." </div> You know, it's very ironic you bring up his name as a victim of racism when he is actually a racist himself. Check out this link. Here is a quote. One of my favorites - <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">But on Wednesday, longtime Golden State season ticket holder Michael Ching revealed that the actual exchange?which began with some low-level trash talk (Ching told Williams to "get used to sitting on the bench")?culminated in Williams calling him a "slant-eyed ************," and telling Ching and those sitting near him (another Asian American guy and a Vietnamese American woman), "I will shoot all you Asian motherfuckers. Do you remember the Vietnam War? I'll kill y'all just like that." According to the Sacramento Bee, J-Will made like he had a machine gun and "emitted a rat-a-tat-tat sound," adding, for good measure, "Just like Pearl Harbor." </div>
Funny thing about people who complain about "racism" is that they are racists themselves. Some African Americans wouldn't leave an Asian alone. If they make fun of Asians, they dont have the right to complain about racism.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting WadeDynasty:</div><div class="quote_post">Funny thing about people who complain about "racism" is that they are racists themselves. Some African Americans wouldn't leave an Asian alone. If they make fun of Asians, they dont have the right to complain about racism.</div> There is a difference between making racist comments, and being a life long racist. I think all of us at one time in our lives have made racist comments. But the difference is, some people just have hate in they're blood. I think black athletes have it the worse. Bird had it bad. But it doesn't compare to what black athletes have went through. The margin of error being a black male in this country is much thinner than everybody else's. Look at Larry Brown, this guy has basically quit on his team. Not only that, he's apparently agreed to another deal while under contract with the Pistons. Just imagine if that we're Rasheed Wallace. The media would destroy him. Or Steven Jackson, he would be labeled all kinds of things. But since Larry Brown isn't percieved as threat to society, he gets somewhat of a pass. The media is the biggest form of racism I can think of.
How about when Black basketball players say it's embarassing to get dunked on by a white guy, or when white basketball players are told everything they can't do instead of what they can? Does that count as racism?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting briang8818:</div><div class="quote_post">How about when Black basketball players say it's embarassing to get dunked on by a white guy, or when white basketball players are told everything they can't do instead of what they can? Does that count as racism?</div> Yes. Racism against certain races are more socially acceptable then others. Not defending it, that's just how it is. I think what makes racism particularly offensive is when it signals oppression which is on-going, or when it echoes attitudes in a time where oppression was a harsh reality. Since in America whites have never really been oppressed by blacks in the way that blacks have been oppressed by whites, racism against whites don't sting quite as much. It also explains why its not seen quite as offensive when blacks make racist statements towards their own race (black comics do this routinely for laughs, for instance). So when you have a movie title like "White Men Can't Jump," that's not particularly offensive because it doesn't really point to any case of oppression. It's not like there was a time when white people were enslaved or forced into poverty because of a perception that they couldn't jump. But if you had a movie title like "Black Men Can't Spell," that's extremely offensive because it points directly to an attitude people had (and continue to have, unfortunately) that they used to justify oppression -- "blacks don't have the same mental capacity as whites so its ok to force them into slavery and exhausting, menial labor"
I noticed in comedy shows blacks are always making fun of whites, and they take it lightly, but black people take it so offensive if a white person were to make fun of blacks. People are always afraid to make jokes around me because I'm black, but I dont take jokes so offensive if I know the person well and they can also take jokes.
Brian brings up a good point, that is actually from shaqs book. @Rockfan Browns situation has nothing to do with rascism. Nobody is making a big deal because the pistons LET HIM talk to other teams. White Rascism seems to very acceptable here in America. White people can be openly bashed in the media and no one even cares. Don't believe me? How about the new beer commercial with the regae? I believe the end is "teaching our white friends how to dance since ______" No one complains about how Barry Bonds wants to break Ruth's home run record but not Hank Aaron's
Wow I must be real dumb for not noticing so many racism related comments... I live in NY and I live with every kind of humans so I get along with every race. For me what makes me hate a person would be the person's personality. Not the color of skin. Anyways, I just wanna add to that "getting dunked on " comment It's embarassing to get dunked on by ANYBODY lmao
That was a great point about white poepl getting racist comments put against them. Its sort ofa case of reverse racism. (yea, I made that term up,I'm tired too). However, sopme people have to stand up for hwite people too, and alot of them laugh at the jokes too so unless they find it offensive it won't end. If there's any racism towards black people(directly related to the league), I think it would be in the upper layers of the front office or the fans. As for racism towards me, I hpersonally haven't experienced any, but this is a primarily white community, and our basketabll team isn't good, and when we were fighitng to qualify for a higher division, we got dunked on many times(im not on the team). And of course, they said they were better "because they were black". of course they mouthed black, but you knew what they were thinking. Anyways,I think its very safe to say Racism is still a very big part of our society. I think its just transformed from acceptable to a very complicated, double standard taboo.
I agree about that comment about whites get ribbed on by blacks alot but when whites do it back most black people don't take it lightly .
I noticed something strange in the longest yard commercial. Chris Rock had a line about how he was so bad at sports that he was picked AFTER the white kids. Now that strikes me as odd that they would actually go so far as to MARKET that racist statement, and use it as a way to say "hey, come see this movie for jokes like these" I won't pretend to have ever been opressed, and I never took the comments to heart, but there are white kids out there that believe that they can't jump, dance, or many other things, and it causes them to give up. I think it's a shame. And I was especially disgusted when Larry Bird made the comment about how he was insulted when a white guy guarded him. It made me not feel one bit sorry about the statements that he was overrated because he was white, because he is obviously no better than those people that said that.
reverse racism isn't a made up term, it actually happens alot. I am asian and play basketball alot, I went to a school district where black students were predominant, and too many times I were called names like "jackie chan, ching chong, etc." Many white students were also discriminated against, made fun of or called out by the fact they're white. For these people (definitley NOT representative of all blacks) to act like this, it is a disgrace to what their ancestors, parents, grandparents went through. On a separate note, the reason why the NBA and other sports are dominated by blacks is because, let's face it (take a deep breath)- black people are generally more athletic! *GASP* There I said it, there's physical differences amongst differencet races, skin color, eye shape, facial features, and it has been proven* that black people are in fact, so to speak, more athletic... just like the fact that I am asian, I tend to have smaller eyes, just like the fact that white people sometimes have blue eyes and blonde hair... black people tend to be athletic... Am I stereotyping? No... notice I said generally, on average, and I think that the first step to overcoming discrimination is to FACE and ACCEPT our differences. *(like the long distance runners and sprinters from africa, their muscle fiber composition was found to be different from european/white athletes) just to name one study I could think off the top of my head edit: this post was not meant to offend anyone, I jsut have said what many people are afraid to say, let's face it, there's physical differences amongst different races, why are we so afraid to point out and even cherish these differences? The world today is to PC.
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