I've seen some members here making a fuss over players leaving to make more money. How can you blame a 28 year old guy for opting out and making more money? If I had the chance to resign for $11 million with my team and sign elsewhere for $19 million I would go for the extra $8 million for sure and a lot of you guys would as well. Every year fans bi*ch and moan about players not being loyal and leaving and I used to but you have to put yourself in their shoes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jun 27 2006, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've seen some members here making a fuss over players leaving to make more money. How can you blame a 28 year old guy for opting out and making more money? If I had the chance to resign for $11 million with my team and sign elsewhere for $19 million I would go for the extra $8 million for sure and a lot of you guys would as well. Every year fans bi*ch and moan about players not being loyal and leaving and I used to but you have to put yourself in their shoes.</div>how can they not be mad? it's greed and it's sad that professional sports is all about money. no athlete is worth $20 million just because he can play basketball. players leaving for more money is pure greed. if d wade left miami right now because another team offered him more money i would be so pissed as a miami heat fan. that's not loyal and it's not right. the point is, you make millions already, stay with the team you're set for life anyway. players have to play because they love the game not because they're making $8 million instead of $12 million. that's just stupid. i know that's a lot of money but quit being greedy and just play the game.
Well if I was in that situation it would depend on what kinda player and team it was. I would stay if we were a good team or I was the heart and soulof the team.
I think it's out of hand to an extent. Like some people will say get an offer from Dallas (contenders), then get an offer from a bottom 10 team for like $0.5M more, and they go to the bottom 10 team. That's retarded in my opinion.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nykfan4life @ Jun 27 2006, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>how can they not be mad? it's greed and it's sad that professional sports is all about money. no athlete is worth $20 million just because he can play basketball. players leaving for more money is pure greed. if d wade left miami right now because another team offered him more money i would be so pissed as a miami heat fan. that's not loyal and it's not right. the point is, you make millions already, stay with the team you're set for life anyway. players have to play because they love the game not because they're making $8 million instead of $12 million. that's just stupid. i know that's a lot of money but quit being greedy and just play the game.</div> This isn't the 1950's....sports is about money and you know damn right you would take the extra $10 million over 'team loyalty'.... People get paid in this country for how many people can do the job...The NBA makes billions and only a few people can play in the NBA...so they make a big share of it, it's only logical.
It's like this:If a guy is offered $5,000,000 to play for a championship team or $20,000,000 to play for a lottery team, he is obviously going to take the $20,000,000. It's not greed, it's just being reasonable. It's like if someone offered you a job at an up-and-coming business that pays $200,000 a year. However, by taking it you'd lose your current job at a world-wide enterprise that pays $100,000 per year. Who cares? Anyone would take the job that pays double.It's simply being reasonable and financially responsible.However:In a situation like Joe Johnson's, where he was able to take equal money from Phoenix or Atlanta, and went to Atlanta for individual glory, that is pathetic. If one is offered $5,000,000 for a championship team, and $7,000,000 for a crap team, that's when you should take the lesser money. It's not a major difference.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>In a situation like Joe Johnson's, where he was able to take equal money from Phoenix or Atlanta, and went to Atlanta for individual glory, that is pathetic.</div> Joe Johnson wanted to live closer to his family.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jun 27 2006, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Joe Johnson wanted to live closer to his family.</div>But at the same time, are you telling me that the other half of the reason wasn't that he could be the man in ATL and put up good numbers? It was, and everyone knows it.
That was all the reason, or so I think. Joe is a grown man, I don't think being away from his family would be THAT big a deal
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jun 27 2006, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But at the same time, are you telling me that the other half of the reason wasn't that he could be the man in ATL and put up good numbers? It was, and everyone knows it.</div> Who cares? Everyone bashes the guy, he has a valid reason there...I don't see why people care so much about Joe Johnson. The guy might have wanted to be a star, so what, he didn't feel like living on the other side of the country away from his family.
I guess none of us can really judge how close he was to his family, and you really can't blame the guy for that. However, if I had to guess, he was leaving to be a star
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Jun 27 2006, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I guess none of us can really judge how close he was to his family, and you really can't blame the guy for that. However, if I had to guess, he was leaving to be a star</div>No doubt. Who knows what would have happened if he stayed in Phoenix. Add JJ to the Suns in the WCF things may have been different. Then add Amare to that in 2007, they would be a lot of people's favorites for winning the title. But no, he would rather put up 20/5/5, collect his check, and "visit his family" lol.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jun 27 2006, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No doubt. Who knows what would have happened if he stayed in Phoenix. Add JJ to the Suns in the WCF things may have been different. Then add Amare to that in 2007, they would be a lot of people's favorites for winning the title. But no, he would rather put up 20/5/5, collect his check, and "visit his family" lol.</div> Maybe he didn't care for management or something...you guys have no idea what the situation was.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nykfan4life @ Jun 27 2006, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>how can they not be mad? it's greed and it's sad that professional sports is all about money. no athlete is worth $20 million just because he can play basketball. players leaving for more money is pure greed. if d wade left miami right now because another team offered him more money i would be so pissed as a miami heat fan. that's not loyal and it's not right. the point is, you make millions already, stay with the team you're set for life anyway. players have to play because they love the game not because they're making $8 million instead of $12 million. that's just stupid. i know that's a lot of money but quit being greedy and just play the game.</div>Oh please, so your saying if one team offered you 10 million more than what the team your on offers you tha you would still stick w/ your team??? I highly doubt it. Plus figure it out the NBA has become more of a business than a sport. Its not just about playing the game anymore. BTW Kmart you made a really dumb statement imo about the family thing. You say you dont see how it could be that big of a deal being away from your family. Put yourself in athletes shoes who also has a family. More than half of the year you are around traveling w/ your team while your wife and kids are at home w/o you and you rarely see them. I cant imagine being a father in the NBA and missing most of my childs childhood. Think aabout it this guy is missing his kid grow up. I know most of his reason was for glory but I fully understand him wanting to be closer to family.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Jun 27 2006, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If one is offered $5,000,000 for a championship team, and $7,000,000 for a crap team, that's when you should take the lesser money. It's not a major difference.</div>I'd say two million is a lot of money, but maybe that's just me.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Jun 27 2006, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That was all the reason, or so I think. Joe is a grown man, I don't think being away from his family would be THAT big a deal</div> :no1:
$7,000,000 and $5,000,000 won't change your financial status like $5,000,000 and $20,000,000. That was the point I was trying to get across.And about family, while we all want to be around them, jobs normally seperate family members. In Joe's case, he'd have enough money to still see them regularily during the off-season, and bring them up during the season to Phoenix. If basketball is your job, wouldn't you want to be part of something special? Like a championship team?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Jun 27 2006, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>$7,000,000 and $5,000,000 won't change your financial status like $5,000,000 and $20,000,000. That was the point I was trying to get across.And about family, while we all want to be around them, jobs normally seperate family members. In Joe's case, he'd have enough money to still see them regularily during the off-season, and bring them up during the season to Phoenix. If basketball is your job, wouldn't you want to be part of something special? Like a championship team?</div>I mean I love to win but if I was in the NBA and it meant barely being able to see my family I would choose family first. LOL you should go see Click. They really emphasize that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jun 27 2006, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I mean I love to win but if I was in the NBA and it meant barely being able to see my family I would choose family first. LOL you should go see Click. They really emphasize that.</div>The guys can move there family to w/e they play so enough with the family thing. They got enough money to move there family to w/e he goes to play. But I would take more money easy. If I was getting older, and gave everything to a team for years, and did not get a title like KG/AI then I might take less to go to a team that can contend, and also it would depend on how much less money it be. But that's if I played for many seasons giving it everything, and still did not win.
oh please BCB,you dont think its a little disloyal and greedy at all to take more money in the nba lol wow the fact is these guys are millionaires and they dont need any more money,most of these guys' salaries are more than i will make in my entire lifetime,now i could understand if it was lets say a guy that was undrafted and doesnt really all that much money and signs with another team for a bigger contract THAT is cool,its just a man tryin to get his paper that alright,but for those rich motherfuckers that leave teams for MORE money its a shame...SHAQ..lol then a year later he asks for less because of all the critisism he got from los angeles after he demanded a trade
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jun 27 2006, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>oh please BCB,you dont think its a little disloyal and greedy at all to take more money in the nba lol wow the fact is these guys are millionaires and they dont need any more money,most of these guys' salaries are more than i will make in my entire lifetime,now i could understand if it was lets say a guy that was undrafted and doesnt really all that much money and signs with another team for a bigger contract THAT is cool,its just a man tryin to get his paper that alright,but for those rich motherfuckers that leave teams for MORE money its a shame...SHAQ..lol then a year later he asks for less because of all the critisism he got from los angeles after he demanded a trade</div> Your viewing this like a third grader would. People in every walk of life move to different jobs to make more money. It doesn't matter if you make $10 million a year for $40,000 a year, people like making money and change jobs to get it. If that means you changing jobs so your earn $10,000 more a year or James Posey going somewhere else to make $5 million more. I don't see how you can blame a guy for trying to make himself better off in the future, who cares if he's a millionaire or not. Your viewing this like the NBA is just some big boys club when in reality it's a billion dollar business.
