Politics & the NBA

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  1. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

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    For information only (which means I am not trying to start a war but it will probably happen anyway)

    Information on political contributions from players, owners & Commissioner Stern.
     
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    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    I find it interesting that so many small market teams are in the top 10 of teams contributing. I don't see LA, NY, Chicago...

    It's also like it that politics is pretty much invisible in pro sports with respect to contributing and things like that.
     
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    Strictly speaking, the "teams" don't contribute, the players and owners do. It's not like the Blazers as the Blazers are making donations. But yes, it's odd that players and owners in the bigger markets are less likely to donate than those in Portland, Orlando, etc. And Golden State, in political Bay Area, is dead last.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    It's amazing the demographic on were the contributions are being made to. Fits the general voting population to a tee
     
  5. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Blacks and jews go democratic? Shocked!

    ....
     
  6. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

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    I see you are still president of the Asshole Society.

    Ever heard of Eric Cantor? Sheldon Adelson? Paul Wolfowitz?

    Herman Cain? Michael Jordan?

    Of course, I'm an independent, but if you are an example of Republicanism, maybe not surprising Blacks and Jews (it is appropriate to capitalize the word) are more likely to support Democrats.

    BTW, Paul Allen is not Black or Jewish...
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Outliers. Look at the stats, I'm right.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews

    Election year Democratic candidate % of Jewish vote Result[17]
    1940 Franklin D. Roosevelt 90 Won
    1944 Franklin D. Roosevelt 90 Won
    1948 Harry Truman 75 Won
    1952 Adlai Stevenson 64 Lost
    1956 Adlai Stevenson 60 Lost
    1960 John F. Kennedy 82 Won
    1964 Lyndon B. Johnson 90 Won
    1968 Hubert Humphrey 81 Lost
    1972 George McGovern 65 Lost
    1976 Jimmy Carter 71 Won
    1980 Jimmy Carter 45 Lost
    1984 Walter Mondale 67 Lost
    1988 Michael Dukakis 64 Lost
    1992 Bill Clinton 80 Won
    1996 Bill Clinton 78 Won
    2000 Al Gore 79 Lost
    2004 John Kerry 76 Lost
    2008 Barack Obama 78


    http://www.thegrio.com/politics/obama-campaign-focuses-on-black-vote-targets-hbcus.php

     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    MARIS61 Real American

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    Racist rant time again.
     
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    Actually, Paul Allen is quite Jewish.

    Paul Gardner Allen was born in Seattle, Washington, into a modest Jewish family, his father Kenneth S. Allen, was an associate director of the University of Washington libraries, and Faye G. Allen. Allen attended Lakeside School, a prestigious private school in Seattle, and befriended Bill Gates, who was two years his junior but shared a common enthusiasm for computers. Together they monopolized the use of Lakeside School's single minicomputer. In need of more computing power, Allen and Gates snuck into the University of Washington computer labs. They were caught but struck an agreement with lab administrators by providing free computer help to students. After graduation, Allen attended Washington State University, though he dropped out after two years to go and work as a programmer for Honeywell in Boston, which placed him near his old friend again. He later convinced Bill Gates to drop out of Harvard University to found Microsoft.
     
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    Maybe it's not so much who they're voting for, but who they're voting against.

    Given the choice, most jews would vote for whomever ran against Hitler.

    Republican politicians by and large have been racist in their voting, racist in their rhetoric, and racist in their behavior, for as long as I've been alive.

    So maybe jews just see no reason to ever vote for a republican.

    I saw a similar study recently that pointed out a decades-long trend where most educated people vote democrat and most ignorant or uniformed people vote republican, so I guess what you're trying to say in your awkward roundabout way is that most jews are smart.
     
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    from above, Jewish people support democrats about 75% of the time, while blacks voted 98% for Obama. Of course, its racist to point it out when looking at this "study" of a basketball league which is 80% black and what seems to be a large number of jewish owners/commissioners when looking at the democratic support listed.

    Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
     
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    studies are almost always skewed in one direction or another. they are far from objective.
     
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    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

    Up is actually down and truth is actually fiction.

    Except when you're comfortable with the result, as in your post #7 above.
     
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    there are studies and there are statistics. different things.
     
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    And there are studies of statistics, which is what I was referring to.
     
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    you can't quantify "uniformed" or "ignorant". That is a value judgement.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I hope you are being sarcastic or something.

    barfo
     
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    look, anyone can design a test to "prove" that a certain population is "ignorant" on a certain issue. these kind of surveys come out every so often, nothing more than to generate a talking point or some type of meme.
     
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    They didn't design anything, simply looked at level/years of formal education. Most people with advanced degrees are Dems, while most dropouts and non-college types are Reps.

    As someone who was taught you are responsible for your own education and wisely invested a good portion of my "leisure time" digging through odd books at the library, museums, trying crazy stuff to "see what happens", and just plain pestering my elders with questions about stuff, I'll agree it's a generalization to say more formal schooling = more "educated".

    I think it's more accurate to conclude that for every second/day/year/decade spent in a classroom "learning to perform a function", you lose a second/day/year/decade of experiences in the real world. It's a trade-off you can't avoid or take back. A Masters degree doesn't come with a voucher that adds 12 years (your twenties!) onto your life.

    Obviously, if you want to be a neurosurgeon in America you're required to go through the formal bit for half your life. Your knowledge will be precise but only in the narrowest of scopes, leaving you quite ignorant of a myriad of common everyday facets of life that most people are thoroughly educated about, by experience.
     

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