Brandon Roy is the MVP in terms of quality and Brandon Roy is also the MVP in terms of quantity for the Portland Trailblazers so far in the 2008-09 season. PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS REAL PLAYER RATINGS Quality of Players Includes all tracked actions and adjustments for hidden defending 2008-09 Regular Season As of Feb 23, 2009 Brandon Roy 0.907 LaMarcus Aldridge 0.794 Joel Przybilla 0.747 Rudy Fernandez 0.730 Sergio Rodriguez 0.722 Greg Oden 0.681 Steve Blake 0.664 Travis Outlaw 0.604 Channing Frye 0.537 Jerryd Bayless 0.493 Nicolas Batum 0.489 SCALE FOR REAL PLAYER RATINGS Perfect Player? Is there Such a Thing? 1.000 and more Historic Super Star 0.950 and more Super Star 0.850 0.949 A Star Player; An Extremely Good Starter 0.775 0.849 A Great Player; A Solid Starter 0.700 0.774 Major Role Player 0.650 0.699 Role Player 0.600 0.649 Minor Role Player 0.550 0.599 Very Minor Role Player 0.500 0.549 Poor Player at This Time 0.450 0.499 Very Poor Player at This Time 0.350 0.449 Extremely Poor Player at This Time / Disaster and less 0.349 REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION Real Player Production (RPP) is the sum of all the good things minus the sum of all the bad things a player has done since the season began. Although RPP includes all tracked defensive actions, there is no methodology as of yet for adjusting RPP for hidden or untracked defending, such as man to man defending that forces missed shots. Therefore, you should, in order to fairly evaluate the following ratings, remember that the better defenders have done some more for the team relative to the lessor defenders than the ratings are showing. PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION Quantity of Players Includes all tracked actions 2008-09 Regular Season Through Feb. 23, 2009 Brandon Roy 1658.65 LaMarcus Aldridge 1395.90 Travis Outlaw 811.05 Rudy Fernandez 800.00 Steve Blake 788.15 Joel Przybilla 781.40 Greg Oden 665.95 Sergio Rodriguez 496.70 Nicolas Batum 460.55 Jerryd Bayless 208.85 Channing Frye 188.20 TRAILBLAZERS MVPS Congratulations and respect are due to BRANDON ROY, who has been leading the Trailblazers in quality basketball so far this season. Congratulations and respect are due to BRANDON ROY, who has contributed more than any other player to the Trailblazers so far this season. TRAILBLAZER5 SUPERSTARS AND STARS Historic Superstars None Superstars Brandon Roy Stars LaMarcus Aldridge TRAILBLAZERS OTHER KEY, NON-STAR PLAYERS Solid Starters Joel Przybilla Rudy Fernandez Sergio Rodriguez Major Role Players Greg Oden Steve Blake Role Players Travis Outlaw ======= DEFENDING AND OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ======================================== PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS OVERALL DEFENDING SUB RATINGS Includes both tracked and hidden defending 2008-09 REGULAR SEASON As of Feb 23, 2009 Joel Przybilla 0.548 Sergio Rodriguez 0.482 Rudy Fernandez 0.459 Channing Frye 0.378 LaMarcus Aldridge 0.375 Greg Oden 0.323 Travis Outlaw 0.283 Brandon Roy 0.228 Nicolas Batum 0.214 Steve Blake 0.200 Jerryd Bayless 0.199 PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS Includes all tracked offensive actions 2008-09 REGULAR SEASON As of Feb 23, 2009 Brandon Roy 0.717 LaMarcus Aldridge 0.519 Steve Blake 0.510 Rudy Fernandez 0.431 Sergio Rodriguez 0.430 Greg Oden 0.405 Travis Outlaw 0.376 Jerryd Bayless 0.364 Joel Przybilla 0.301 Nicolas Batum 0.289 Channing Frye 0.285 ============ STARS AND SUPERSTARS IN PICTURES ================= BRANDON ROY: SUPERSTAR AND MVP--QUALITY AND MVP--QUANTITY LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE: STAR USER GUIDE For very detailed information about how Real Player Ratings were developed and are calculated, please consult the User Guide for Real Player Rating Reports by Team
Dude made his real NBA ratings and had Marcus Camby as a historical player..... ya. http://sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136094
More accurately, Sergio-haters lost what little credibility they might have imagined they had. As Kingspeed says, "Learn the game, then post". Top to bottom these are the most accurate picture of who is really making this team succeed.
Seems like that statistic tracker should just be called a play time tracker. Not to take anything from Roy, but I believe that the order seems pretty proportional to how much PT players are getting.
A statistical model is only as good as its ability to interpolate a value or extrapolate a trend. Case in point, it rates Nicolas at the bottom in terms of his contributions to this team's success ... that tells me all I need to know about its worth. So in short, learn statistics then post.
Having Sergio 2nd in the defending sub statistic is hardly accurate, lol. Its tough to argue w/ you man because you will never point out something bad that Sergio does, only the positive, but for every other Blazer its far more negative than positive. A long time ago (I was in Junior High) I had a similar man-crush for Fred Jones as a Duck and then for his first season in the NBA I followed the Pacers just to see his stats and would always argue that if given the opportunity he could be a borderline all-star in a few years. lol. Its similar with you, but it seems you are more extreme. But if this makes you happy than go for it. Different people enjoy themselves different ways, but I found it funny that you tell me to "Learn the game"... Edit - Like if you go back throught he game threads in the past month, you will not mention a stat that doesn't do Sergio justice. If Bayless has more assists and Sergio has more points you will point out Sergio did better because he scored more and say Jerryd had to get help from his teammates for the assists. If its the other way around, your arguement is that Sergio is helping the team play better and doing what a PG is suppost to do while Jerryd is playing as a SG. Then when Jerryd has a better +/- than Sergio you will never point it out, and even agreed at how silly the stat was the night (I think) Jerryd had +9 and Sergio had -9, but when Sergio was the only positive (+1) on teh team in his 19 minutes you point it out as a compliment. When Sergio isn't playing well, you don't say take him out, but when Blake isn't playing super, you say PUT SERGIO IN. You constantly poitn out Blake and Roys short-commings on teh defensive end but never Sergio's, using stats by going to the box score and showing how many steals he has had, or how many points the opposing guard had while Blake/Sergio/Jerryd were on the court as well (not taking into account maybe they weren't guarding him, maybe another PG was on the floor that they were guarding, switches, lack of help defense, etc...) but never seem to point it out when Sergio allows the player to score a lot. It really seems like you are FAR more of a fan of Sergio than you are of the team, which is odd. Any trade that is hugely in our favor but either requires bringing in a PG or trading Sergio or both, you say the other team gets the better end and say "Why would we do that?" and "Thank God KP is the GM" and stuff like that. B-Roy asked you if you would trade Sergio for CP3 and the first part of your answer was... "It depends" and went on to talk about if Roy could play with a guard like CP3. Another thing, last year and at the start of this year who railed on Nate more than anyone I can remember and led the charge at BBF. You said he won't be here next year, and etc... You continued to do it at the start of this year, but once he started playing Sergio 15mpg you changed your tone completely and now say no other coach would help this team (Addelman, Poppovich) and Nate should be COY. Its funny as hell, but kinda sad at the same time. I'm not trying to point out your flaws here, because I think we all have a favorite player we want to see succeed, but its tough to argue with you. This is really the most accurate chart there, i'm not sure what for. But its at least close. With Jerryd though, he doesn't get enough minutes to qualify, imo, or his production would far outweigh lots of players on that list as we saw when he averaged 10.5ppg, 3apg and 2rpg during Blake's absense. Figures...
Holy Crap! Are you actually going to defend the matador by saying we need to "Learn the game"? That's a joke, right? You are going to use a scale that places Canby in Historical Star status to do so? Learn the game, then post right back at you.
