Basically, this is a "what If" kind of thread. The Raptors section been gettin kind of dead lately so just tryin to create somethin. My one scenario- What if Vince Carter had hit that shot in 2001 against Philly? How far do you think the Raps would have gone? If you're tired of that one then the alternate is What if we had not traded Vince Carter for Antawn Jamison?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting spawn:</div><div class="quote_post">Basically, this is a "what If" kind of thread. The Raptors section been gettin kind of dead lately so just tryin to create somethin. My one scenario- What if Vince Carter had hit that shot in 2001 against Philly? How far do you think the Raps would have gone? If you're tired of that one then the alternate is What if we had not traded Vince Carter for Antawn Jamison?</div> From your first scenario maybe if vince hit the shot, or pumped fake and got the foul then maybe the raptors would be in the finals getting beat by the lakers 4-1 2nd scenario we'd probably still suck, i'm not sure if jamison would've stayed after his rookie contract, he was actually saying that vince would leave before vince signed his contract
If Carter would've hit that shot then Raptors would've been beaten by the Bucks.If I remember right Antonio Davis had somekind of hand injury and would've sat out 2-3 games.Williams would've had hard time slowing Sam Cassell.Ray Allen-Vince Carter battle would've been great but Milwaukee in 5. After Carter missed the shot,his career went downhill. "One shot that can change your life"
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">From your first scenario maybe if vince hit the shot, or pumped fake and got the foul then maybe the raptors would be in the finals getting beat by the lakers 4-1</div> I don't think the player would've fouled him, that would be pretty dumb, and their wasn't enough time for that. If they had won, they would've likely gotten to the finals and got pumelled by the Lakers. I don't understand why everyone says his career went down after the shot, the shot didn't make him get injured or make him lose his fire or make him start taking jumpers too much, that's just stupid.
First off the shto was a great shot, he pump faked and everything got a good look, just didnt drop.. he tried to draw the foul as well.. Raps woulve gone to the finals, milwakee wouldnt be able to contain vince in his prime. Antawn Jamison would not have taken us anywhere , same type of thing like he did in golden state but without an athletic lineup to go with him. What if raptors drafted iverson? we probly wouldnt have gotten carter, i wonder how it would be.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allstar44:</div><div class="quote_post"> What if raptors drafted iverson? we probly wouldnt have gotten carter, i wonder how it would be.</div> Raptors would've never drafted Allen as they had Damon Stoudamire,former ROY.I think they would've traded 1st pick for 2nd pick and cash. You must admit that after that shot you never saw Vince as the same highflying fearless dunker he was.The shot didn't get him injured but if he would've hit the shot he would've played longer that season and maybe would've never injured himself.
yea, that shot wuz in n out. If it went in then we wouldve been swept by the Lakers, but at least have more credibility. I think if we ended up with anyone except VC during those years we mitve left like the Grizzlies. He helped turnaround this team and make everyone forget that horrible 97 season. I think the biggest "whatif" is if McGrady had decided to stay. That was looking like an amazing duo and they complementd each other well.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting R_ChutneY:</div><div class="quote_post">yea, that shot wuz in n out. If it went in then we wouldve been swept by the Lakers, but at least have more credibility. I think if we ended up with anyone except VC during those years we mitve left like the Grizzlies. He helped turnaround this team and make everyone forget that horrible 97 season. I think the biggest "whatif" is if McGrady had decided to stay. That was looking like an amazing duo and they complementd each other well.</div> i don't think it was an "in n out" shot, it was either strong or short and hit the rim. If mcgrady stayed my prediction was maybe we have had a chance at the title at that time.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Ray Allen-Vince Carter battle would've been great but Milwaukee in 5. </div> I doubt the Bucks would be able to beat the Raptors in just 5 games. If i remember correctly, the Raptors had their number in the regular season. And Vince always played well against them since he could light up whoever was guarding him on that team. Anyways, I think If that shot had fallen in, they, like the Sixers, would have beaten the Bucks in 7. VC & Ray would have been somethin. As for the Lakers, that would be a straight sweep cause the 2001 Lakers were virtually unstoppable. Shaq would have run over Davis at that time and the role players were playing excellent during that year for them. That year, however, I think VC had a little bit more of a hand over Kobe offensively. Kobe played better defense but Vince's offensive game was at its max that year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "Martin":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting allstar44:</div><div class="quote_post"> What if raptors drafted iverson? we probly wouldnt have gotten carter, i wonder how it would be.</div> Raptors would've never drafted Allen as they had Damon Stoudamire,former ROY.I think they would've traded 1st pick for 2nd pick and cash. You must admit that after that shot you never saw Vince as the same highflying fearless dunker he was.The shot didn't get him injured but if he would've hit the shot he would've played longer that season and maybe would've never injured himself.</div> The Butterfly effect, and maybe if he didn't get injured that season he would've had an even worse on the next season, and maybe career ending, or maybe he would've gotten injured even worse that next season because he had so much pressure on him after going to the finals, "maybe's" like that just don't work.
if mcgrady had stayed we wud have two explosive nba first team all-star guards which wudda made us contenders, and what if hakeem cud still play ? dream, vinsanity, and t-mac wud b virtually unstoppable and we prob wud have beaten the lakers with that team ... too bad t-mac left, and hakeem cudnt play...
"You must admit that after that shot you never saw Vince as the same highflying fearless dunker he was." - Martin Wrong. If i remember correctly, in the 2002 season in the first home game, Vince did the sick reverse 1 hander on Nowitzki and then one of the coolest full-on windmill jams. He also did the amazing jump from the dotted line @ the ACC vs. the Lakers and in LA vs LAL, he did a nice 1 hander. he had some sick tip ins and lets not forget is dunk in mo-town. According to NBA.com, that was the best dunk of the season. I happen to agree. Vince had some great dunks that season. He was still flyin high.
VC and the Raps were at 4th in the Eastern Standings heading into the 2002 All-Star game and VC was having an excellent year, he was still a high flyer as well as a deadly overall player. Then came the injury. It happened a week or 2 before the All-Star break. Toronto lost 13 straight after the break, and VC couldn't play for the rest of the season (atleast till the 2nd rnd)...miracously the Raps made it to the playoffs, and VC's repuatation became of an "injury prone" superstar....
we would of made the 2001 finals (and get their "butocks" kicked by the lakers in 4 games) if we kept jaminson then the raps wouldn't be as popular as they are now
Raptors are popular? Well, maybe in Toronto, but last I checked most NBA players shyed away from Toronto. I think you mean if Jamison was here, we wouldn't have gotten the exposure as we did in 2001 and who knows, we might have ended up like the Grizzlies.
Raptors are not as popular as they were 2 years ago. But from 2000 to the middle of the 2002 season they were very well known. Because back then everyone knew it was the team that Vince Carter was on.
What if we kept Jonathen Bender instead of trading him for Antonio Davis? Seriously, I think he could of become the next Garnett considering their physical, and game similarities, but it's a shame that he was burried on the bench for many seasons at Indiana while Davis was just an above average player during the stint as a Raptor.
They Didnt Have The 1st Pick That Year Even Though They Won The Lottery. I Think The Raptors Would Of Got To The Finals If He Hit That Shot And The Lakers Whould Of Won In 5.and The Raptors Wouldnt Even B 10 Games Shy Of .500 Is Jamison Was There
