Exclusive Prediction. The final result of the Mueller Ivestigation

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  1. MarAzul

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    We will come to realize the Special Counsel, finding little but interfering greatly is unconstitutional.

    The original intent in the constitution is to shield the President from prosecution while in office except for impeachment by proceedings in the House of Representatives. But the real scrutiny is reserved to the American voters every four years. Continuous turmoil in between is not consistent with the intent of impeachment as the only legal course of action against the Chief Executive.
     
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    How has Mueller interfered?
     
  3. MarAzul

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I imagine what MarAzul is thinking about is the final report that Mueller will issue to Rosenstein, which will cause the congress to impeach Trump and remove him from office.

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    I predict this will look much like the Starr Report - multiple alleged counts of illegal behavior, albeit this indictment will likely allege crimes far greater than perjury in a civil trial, which is all they really had on Clinton.

    "Collusion"? Yes, although that's not illegal. The real fruit would be "conspiracy" between the Trump campaign (Manafort?), Russians, and Wikileaks. I think that is the meat of the matter personally. That would be a "high crime and misdemeanor" and would likely be an act that is both impeachable, and removable from office.

    As some of you know, I have written extensively professionally about impeachment. I would be happy to discuss what the old English term "high crime and misdemeanor" likely refers to.
     
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    @MarAzul did you oppose Ken Starr and that charade? Were you on the site of executive immunity then?
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    I'm just disappointed there wasn't a poll in this thread.
     
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    You do the crime, you do the Time.


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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...el oh effing el.
     
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    ...I think Manafort and Trump's Son and his Son in Law will be among the first indicted.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    How many indictments be did Ken get? How many guilty pleas?

    That said, I ain't holding my breath.
     
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    Yes I opposed the Starr charade and the impeachment of Clinton. I thought it interfered with his presidency terribly. Although he brought much of it on himself
    with his embarrassing behavior, the spectacle was still unwise. We protect the President from this sort of crap so he can concentrate his energies on the business at hand. I do not know if he would have done more about the attacks we were under, like the bombing of the USS Cole, the WT Center, Embassy in Nairobi, etc.
    but I can sure see the daily gossip in the media distracting the man from threats foreign to concentrating on threats domestic.

    No, I was not on the site you mention.
     
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    Luckily, Trump has lots and lots of free time on his hands, so lawsuits and criminal matters won't be a distraction. He can just miss a round of golf now and then, or maybe a few minutes of Fox and Friends.

    A real president, who actually attended to the job... well, then you might have a point.

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    BTW, that the hell is an ivestigation? Is that a new product from Apple? The iVest!
     
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    The appointment of a Special Counsel to investigate the President without evidence of a crime is tantamount to a shortcut to impeachment. The only practical
    result is to impede or impair the President. Which is what impeachment is. Collusion while not being a crime, may indeed be an impeachable offense, if Congress deems it so.

    However, the House of representative where the members are directly answerable to the people is the only entity authorized to bring the impeachment upon the President. It's member then are subject to the will of the people. In this impeachment charade as done by the special counsel, it shortcuts the whole process with no conviction (by the Senate or other) required and no one answerable to the people. No one in the chain of command in this form of impeachment, special counsel or the Assistant AG is answerable to the people.

    Nothing about this process can be found in the Constitution. I can see no logical argument for this charade.
     

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    It is for a mod to correct.
     
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    None of that makes sense.

    Mueller is not impeaching Trump. Mueller does not have the ability to remove Trump, nor has he tried. He has not even accused Trump of crimes (yet).

    There is however plenty of evidence of crimes by various people, as seen in the various indictments handed down so far.

    You object because you can see, like everyone else, where this is going - Trump is going to be impeached (by Congress) based at least in part on the evidence that Mueller turns up. If you didn't believe that, you wouldn't be bothered by the investigation.

    Your objection is an admission that you think there is evidence to be found, and that your boy is guilty.

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    Trump takes off his mask and reveals he is Joseph Stalin. He then does a Bolshevik dance over the US constitution while russian hookers pee on him
     
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    Implausible, that part about Trump dancing.

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