Notice Preseason Positives and Negatives

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  1. tlongII

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    Too many turnovers. You cannot win turning the ball over that many times.
     
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    It interesting because I thought Billups was saying he didn't want us to rely on the 3 as much as we have in the past, yet here we are.
     
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    Negatives: The preseason

    Positives: The preseason is over.
     
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    I think it's very like Dame wins a ring this season....just not with us.
     
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    So, the real title should be "Preseason Positives and Negatives".

    So, let's see how we stack up against other teams.
    Team scoring: 30th
    Team scoring differential: 30th
    Team assists: 30th (hard to get assists when you can't hit anything, but so much for ball movement)
    Team assist differential: 30th (29th was -5.75, we were -12.33!!!)
    Team turnovers: 30th
    Team turnover differential: 30th
    Team blocked shots: 30th
    Team 3 point %: 29th
    Team fg%: 28th
    Team defense: 27th
    Team fg% differential: 27th
    Team steals: 19th
    Team defensive fg%: 19th (yay!)
    Team ft%: 13th (yay!)
    Team rebounding difference: 9th (yay - I actually thought we sucked pretty bad at rebounding)

    "Inauspicious" doesn't quite capture it, does it ?
    If you want to view the full horror, go here.

    Can you blame Morey for deciding to hold on to Ben Simmons for a while, "just in case"?
     
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    I'm kind of hoping the team keeps this up and sets some kind of record. That'll teach us to whine about a consistent playoff team.
     
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    Premier League analogy: Watford were a below-average-but-safe-from-relegation team that decided the coach was the problem. They fired him and replaced him with a respected guy. They just lost 5-0 in their first game after the change.
     
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    Haha this is preseason guys, not much to take from it. It’s a long 82 game season, with a new coach and new philosophy in place, it’s going to take time. Remember this is the first time Dame and CJ have had a different coach, they have been stuck in Stotts way for a while.

    I took away a few things though. First , the first game vs GW we looked fine when the starters were playing. Defense and offense looked fine with the starters.

    The last two games, yes our defense wasn’t the greatest but no one wants to talk about how poorly we shot in the last two preseason games? 29.8% Team FG’s and 15.4% on 3’s. and 40.2% and 25% the last game. I don’t care how good of D you play, you aren’t going to win if you shoot that bad.

    another thing I noticed is the high turnovers, which I think is a product of guys thinking too much on the court. I saw times where guys were trying to make the extra pass a little too much, and that turned into turnovers.

    this is going to be a work in progress guys, taking anything away from some preseason guys is silly man.

    the Lakers went 0-6, I guess that means they aren’t making the playoffs right? Lol
     
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    where are those enes kanter put back drills? He should be doing “two a days”on those!
     
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    Barely a Playoff Team WITH Lillard. Last year, tied for the 5-7 spot just ahead of #8. The season before, a Play-in team.
    This roster just is not very good. It starts with the two main players who are a negative on defense on a nightly basis. You are recovering from that every signle game. Many times their offense is good enough to overcome that deficit, but it is a hole to start with none the less.

    I applaud trying something new, but that will take time, and it won't make Dame/CJ any better of a defensive combo at the point of attack. You are relying on a lot of help behind them from small SF Powell, small PF RoCo, and recently hackmaster Nurkic.

    Their offense will still bail them out on many nights, but this team needs an upgrade in defense, length, and the ability to attack the basket and get to the foul line. It is a finesse, 3-pt shooting team and a change in philosphy with long time vets isn't likely to change that any time soon.
     
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    They better hope they don't lose Lillard then.
    The problem is beings that is the case they are going to LOSE LILLARD anyway at the end of the season.
    He's gone!
     
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    I agree with this take for sure.
    Chauncey does not have this team engaged.
    Nurk is not going to change under a new coach.
     
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    Quick had a good article on the preseason struggles. I wish some of you negative nancies would read it.
    https://theathletic.com/2893090/202...-level-of-patience?source=user-shared-article

     
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    Feel free to rub my nose in it when we're a top ten defense.

    Another difference: Stotts knew he was on thin ice and had to produce. Chauncey knows Olshey can't afford to fire him because that would be an admission Olshey fucked up, so Chauncey can be bull-headed.
     
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    As long as Dame and CJ are the starting back court this team will be average at best on the D side. And really that shoulnt take us to long to achieve in the regular season once we get healthy and some continuity.
     
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    There's a difference between looking bad and looking like the worst team in the NBA. That's what we looked like this preseason. (Well, we looked like it because we were.) With a team returning its entire starting lineup.

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    The biggest, throbbing, pustulant negative of this preseason? The revisionists cackling about what a great coach Stotts was.

    A year ago the Blazers were a house with a leaky roof and a crumbling foundation. Fixing one problem (Stotts) didn't magically fix the other (Olshey). That doesn't mean that the solution was to just ignore both problems.
     

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