Prime Muggsy or Present Boykins?

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  1. hoopsallusionz

    hoopsallusionz JBB JustBBall Member

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    i would personally take muggsy. he was a solid if not good starter in the mid 90's, even averaged a double-double in the '93 season for the hornets. while giving up 2 inches compared to Boykins, haha.

    but stats don't tell the whole story. it could be argued that boykins could post similiar numbers if he started... so let the dicussion begin!
     
  2. Mez

    Mez JBB JustBBall Member

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    I'd have to go with Muggsy too. Although Boykins is playing excellent for the Nuggets right now, I think Muggsy was more consistant and bigger value to his team.
     
  3. Sir Desmond

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    I would take Earl. I have always loved Muggsy and have viewed him as an ambassador for making it in the NBA despite obvious limtations, but the one special gift Earl Boykins has is his ability to produce consistently in the clutch. Muggsy could always be counted upon to protect the basketball and find a man, but I would never doubt Earl's ability to consistently come up with the key basket, steal, assist or even rebound.
     
  4. Ming637

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    I liked Muggsy Bogues because of his size and what he is capable of.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ming637:</div><div class="quote_post">I liked Muggsy Bogues because of his size and what he is capable of.</div>

    That is the point of a message board, so what exactly was he capable of?

    Boykins if a 4th quarter finisher and one of the most clutch players in the league. Bogues was a great leader, he was great at controlling the tempo of a game and getting his team set offensively.

    Is a close call, but I take Earl, he is fearless.
     
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    Sir Dez and KJ just about summed it up for me. Earl Boykins.
     
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    I take Muggsy.

    Muggsy in his prime 3 years averaged:

    10 ppg and 8.8 apg 3.7 rpg

    10.8 ppg and 10.1 apg 4.1 rpg

    11.1 ppg and 8.7 apg 3.3 rpg

    Muggsy was great at creating shots for others and it shows with those assists numbers. And, he was a supprisingly good rebounder.

    Muggsy.
     
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    I'd have to go with Muggsy...the man was one of the best point guards in the league during his time...earl still has a lot to do to prove himself...
     
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    I'd take Boykins. When his team really needs him, he steps up. Muggsy was efficient but he wasn't a clutch player like Boykins is. The things that Muggsy did, setting the tempo, passing the ball, Boykins could do that, too, if he got more minutes. I would rather have a clutch player who could do all the same things, so I'd pick Boykins.
     
  10. Martin

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    I would pick Earl,you saw Muggsy's stats and he was a starter but Earl is coming off the bench so if Boykins would be starting he would get around 16-21ppg and ~7 apg.
     
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    ^ You can't know that for sure. And if he would average that, why isn't he starting? [​IMG]
     
  12. Martin

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    only one name is on Boykins's way and it's Andre Miller :mrgreen:
     
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    Ill take Mugsy just because he has been more consistant.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting The Prophecy:</div><div class="quote_post">^ You can't know that for sure. And if he would average that, why isn't he starting? [​IMG]</div>

    That is the NBA's fault. Even after players like Tiny, Webb, Bogues, and now Boykins, the league is still hung up on "you are too short"

    You would think by now they would be past that and if you can play, you can play.

    But too bad that is not the case.

    NBA, you suck.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">That is the NBA's fault. Even after players like Tiny, Webb, Bogues, and now Boykins, the league is still hung up on "you are too short"

    NBA, you suck.</div>

    I agree with your first part. Look at Brevin Knight and Earl Boykins. They can both start for a team like Boston, but their height stood in their way. The only player below 5-9 who has succeeded big time is Spudd Webb.

    On your second part, if the NBA sucks, what are you doing on a NBA-focused site then? [​IMG]
     
  16. Ed!

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Martin:</div><div class="quote_post">I would pick Earl,you saw Muggsy's stats and he was a starter but Earl is coming off the bench so if Boykins would be starting he would get around 16-21ppg and ~7 apg.</div>
    He started once this year, got 12 points 5 ast and 4 reb and 40 minutes. Thats not 21 and 7
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ObieCent:</div><div class="quote_post">He started once this year, got 12 points 5 ast and 4 reb and 40 minutes. Thats not 21 and 7</div>

    Ray Allen had 15 points against Memphis, that doesn't mean anything based on just one game. I'd love to see Boykins start for an extended period and see what sort of numbers he could put up. My prediction would be around 16-17 and 7-8 dimes.
     
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    I think Mussgy was better at using his size to pressure the ball full-court and disrupt opposing teams ball handlers. He created alot of turnovers on that old Zo/ Larry Johnson Hornets team. And that was cruial to that team because they loved to run & jump. So for play on both sides of the ball, I'll take Muggsy. But I think Earl has more scoring ablity than Muggsy.
     
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    Tough call. But I'd go with Boykins just because he can hit clutch shots on a consistent basis.
     
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    I think they would kick some ass if they both were on the same team in a men's six foot and under summer league. Shave an inch off of AI and you have an unstopable team. No one can mess with the Pearl Boykins.
     

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