Ok im not sure how people on this board feel about him, but everyone on the other message board, assumes Tracy is a better player than Kobe, becuz Kobe has shaq or some crap like that, even though tracy has gotten waxed his whole career in the Postseason. Anyways my question is, now that paul pierce will prob lead the league in scoring, and prob get eliminated in the first round, like tracy last year( and every other year) .. What makes him not better than tracy in yalls view?? I think Paul and the celtics have a better chance of winning in the playoffs becuz he has proven he can lead a team in the 4th quater .. I just want to know what will make tracy better than Paul if paul does win the scoring title, and puts up the same solid numbers in the other categories
How is Paul going to lead the league in scoring when he has guys like Kobe, Tracy, and Allen in front of him?
I personally thin that Paul Pierce is more talented than T-Mac ! but Tracy makes every thing look easy ... last season .. I've never seen Tracy tired... ( exception of game 7 vs Detroit ) .... ! If u ask who would I like to have on my team .. I's say PP !! ...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sasha:</div><div class="quote_post">How is Paul going to lead the league in scoring when he has guys like Kobe, Tracy, and Allen in front of him?</div> I'd take AI over all of them
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sasha:</div><div class="quote_post">How is Paul going to lead the league in scoring when he has guys like Kobe, Tracy, and Allen in front of him?</div> Because Tmac's going to have to give up the ball if he wants to win, same with Kobe, and AI needs to keep Grob happy or they'll have problems in the Sixers organization
No way tmac or kobe lead the league in scoring next year.. AI has a chance, but hell have to share with the little pup.. Honestly i think paul is so underrated.. I think he is the only player in the league to score 2000 points or something 3 years in a row.. He has more post moves than tmac.. and is a better 3 pt shooter ( except for this past year) Paul is look down at becuz he doesnt have super athleticism.. but if the game is on the line give me him over Tmac any day!!!
This isnt a whos better.. I was just sayin people said Tracy was so great cuz he led the league in scoring, so what will they think after paul does it.. ??? Players are made in the postseason thats my opinion..
People don't think Mcgrady is great just because he can score...He has a great all-round game...can run the floor,rebound,pass steal the ball and gets his team wins with no help at all...If pierce leads the league in scoring people won't change their opinion of him..He is still a superstar....and a top 10 player
They are great, Tracy, Kobe, Paul...all outstanding ball players, lets just admire them individually for what they do on the court. Forget what some biased 14 year old says (that was not pointed to anybody)
Well you guys know I'm extremely biased, but Tmac has improved dramatically every year and he had to lead his team to the playoffs all by himself. This year he won't have to lead his team. Pierce is clutch, honestly i would take almost everyone other than tmac in the last 2 mins. Every game I want Pat Garrity or Gordan Giricek shooting the ball at the end instead of Tmac. Tmac is the better all around player though. He drastically improved his shot last year and this year he is expected to improve his defense dramatically, since he can save some of his energy for the defensive end with Howard and Gooden who will take some of the offensive pressure off of him. The only knock on Tmac is that he's not clutch(since he woulda passed 1st round if he was clutch).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting sportsrock37:</div><div class="quote_post">Well you guys know I'm extremely biased, but Tmac has improved dramatically every year and he had to lead his team to the playoffs all by himself. This year he won't have to lead his team. Pierce is clutch, honestly i would take almost everyone other than tmac in the last 2 mins. Every game I want Pat Garrity or Gordan Giricek shooting the ball at the end instead of Tmac. Tmac is the better all around player though. He drastically improved his shot last year and this year he is expected to improve his defense dramatically, since he can save some of his energy for the defensive end with Howard and Gooden who will take some of the offensive pressure off of him. The only knock on Tmac is that he's not clutch(since he woulda passed 1st round if he was clutch).</div> I agree with what u said mostly.. But i went back and looked at the stats.. The magic have had some descent teams.. They had mike miller when he was a ROY PAt ewing yea he was old but he still was doin a little damage in the east Horace grant was puttin up solid numbers Tracys first year in orlando Armstrong was averaging 15 pts a game Pat garrity was averaging like 12 and shooting 40% Tracy just hasnt developed a killer instinct..
hi y'all... i'm a newbie so ease up on me a little, ok? i think pierce has a better all around game than tmac, though tracy has shown a lot more improvement through da years. i agree with grizz... he hasn't developed that killer instinct yet or else there wouldn't have been a game 6 last time. maybe this is the season for both of them to prove their worth to their respective teams. with walker out and tmac getting better offensive support, let's see which one leads his team deeper into the playoffs. by then we can decide which team got the better value for their money. peace
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting grizzoistight:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree with what u said mostly.. But i went back and looked at the stats.. The magic have had some descent teams.. They had mike miller when he was a ROY PAt ewing yea he was old but he still was doin a little damage in the east Horace grant was puttin up solid numbers Tracys first year in orlando Armstrong was averaging 15 pts a game Pat garrity was averaging like 12 and shooting 40% Tracy just hasnt developed a killer instinct..</div> Mike Miller was rookie of the year by default because that rookie class stunk! If Marc Jackson would not have got hurt, he would have won it. Ewing was a statue. Grant was a solid PF, but was on the way down hill. Armstrong is a nice player, but his best role is the 6th man, which he and the team wanted, but could not find another pg to start (nor get Grant Hill healthy enough to run the show) Garrity is good for points off the bench, but that is all you will get out of him. T-Mac has a great killer instinct, he has just not learned how to motivate his teamates yet...not that he has had much help either.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting :</div><div class="quote_post">What makes him not better than tracy in yalls view??</div> Im getting sick of all the threads about who is better. They both have their moments of greatness, and its just too hard to compare. Part of Tmac's game is how he makes everything look so easy. Pierce drives a lot and will be heavily depended on this season. You seem pretty sure about Paul leading the league in scoring. He'll have to pick up a lot of slack from what Walker left behind but keep in mind there is many offensively talented players out there. If Shaq comes back to his old self add him as a contender for a possible scoring title. Don't forget about AI, Kobe, etc.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">Mike Miller was rookie of the year by default because that rookie class stunk! If Marc Jackson would not have got hurt, he would have won it. Ewing was a statue. Grant was a solid PF, but was on the way down hill. Armstrong is a nice player, but his best role is the 6th man, which he and the team wanted, but could not find another pg to start (nor get Grant Hill healthy enough to run the show) Garrity is good for points off the bench, but that is all you will get out of him. T-Mac has a great killer instinct, he has just not learned how to motivate his teamates yet...not that he has had much help either.</div> Look here and tell me whos fault it was in the deciding game.. zzz
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting grizzoistight:</div><div class="quote_post">Look here and tell me whos fault it was in the deciding game.. zzz</div> Can't just accept getting roasted eh? In this game the magic just did not have the fire power nor the D to hang with the Bucks. T-Mac tried to do it all himself, but I take it he was not feeling his shot on this night either. The Magic here have no kind of scoring help from their frontcourt, which hurts them big time.
Tracy not feelin his shot in a deciding game.. thats suprising.. what kind of scoring did the bucs have?? Darvin ham??? U should stick to praising king james..
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">Can't just accept getting roasted eh? In this game the magic just did not have the fire power nor the D to hang with the Bucks. T-Mac tried to do it all himself, but I take it he was not feeling his shot on this night either. The Magic here have no kind of scoring help from their frontcourt, which hurts them big time.</div> Ham Johnson Williams Are those frontcourt scoring threats? Nope. The Bucks didn't have frontcourt scoring threats either. And Grizzo- The Magic had talent last year. Not before last year did TMac actually have a legit chance of advancing. We have argued this before.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Vintage:</div><div class="quote_post">Ham Johnson Williams Are those frontcourt scoring threats? Nope. The Bucks didn't have frontcourt scoring threats either. And Grizzo- The Magic had talent last year. Not before last year did TMac actually have a legit chance of advancing. We have argued this before.</div> Vintage i think king james prob thought Pryzbilla had played that game.. By the way its good to see Sam Smith is comin up with crazy trade ideas.. like Tyson Chandler and Jalen Rose for kobe.. Has he ever gotten one right??
