Racial chitstorm part II, the Mark Cuban edition

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  1. Mediocre Man

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    Someone can find a link if they choose to, but basically he said all of us, including him, have our bigotry. He said if he is walking and sees a black man walking down the street in a hoodie, he crosses the street, the same way he does if he saw a white guy that was tatted all over his body and face.

    This isn't nearly the same as Sterling, but this will get a lot of attention in the coming days.

    I get what he is saying as I have said the same things in here. My neighbor, who is black, and I were talking about this this morning. He asked why I felt this way and I told him it probably stemmed from the whole "better safe than sorry" mantra my parents taught me as a youth. I asked him if he would feel uncomfortable if 2-3 white guys with shaved heads, suspenders and black boots were walking towards him at night. Or if he would let his daughter take candy from an elderly man he didn't know on the way home from school. He saw my point, but I digress.

    Cuban will undoubtedly get some sort of huge fine for this.
     
  2. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Re: Racial shitstorm part II, the Mark Cuban edition

    This really isn't much of a outrageous comment. People do make judgment calls based on how a person looks, that's not exactly news.
     
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    Re: Racial shitstorm part II, the Mark Cuban edition

    I understand speaking your mind, but there comes a time when people need to realize it's better if they just STFU. We all harbor sentiments that can be considered racial or propagating stereotypes, but this is horrible timing.
     
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    Re: Racial shitstorm part II, the Mark Cuban edition

    I agree with both of you.

    I think ESPN is trying to make something out of this it isn't
     
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    Re: Racial shitstorm part II, the Mark Cuban edition

    That's ESPN for you. They're almost the TMZ of sports now. Some good stories, but a lot of noise.
     
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    Re: Racial shitstorm part II, the Mark Cuban edition

    The pendulums swings, but takes a long time. In the post-war 20's and 30's, socialism, real socialism (not pretend Obama is a Socialist socialism) was gaining traction, but now it's so far the other way that it feels like that was never in the cards.

    The pendulum was here just 50 years ago:

    [video=youtube;wcPGiGvo-uU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcPGiGvo-uU[/video]

    ...and now it has swung, just like the difference between 1935 and 1985 in politics.

    So don't worry, people who think Whole Foods White Folk are taking being an ally too far for your tastes... in 50 more years, we might be back to casual racism and socialism again...

    :ghoti:
     
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    Re: Racial shitstorm part II, the Mark Cuban edition

    I'm not sure those examples count as bigotry, profiling by appearance yes. Socially both of those "fashions" are intimidating and as such a lot of people who present themselves that way are trying to give the impression that you don't want to mess with them.

    I deal with that a bit. I have pretty significant amount of visible tattooing on my arms, I'm also a fairly big guy at 6'1" 210lbs, and I have a beard. In Portland I fit right in, but hit the burbs where I live and I definitely get the feeling that people are intimidated, especially elderly people.

    But is that bigotry?
     
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    Re: Racial shitstorm part II, the Mark Cuban edition

    It all depends on what part of town you're in.
     
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    Re: Racial shitstorm part II, the Mark Cuban edition

    No, it's prejudice, and they're two vastly different things. However, society as a whole has essentially conflated the two, so that if someone is guilty of one, he/she is presumably guilty of the other as well.
     
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    Re: Racial shitstorm part II, the Mark Cuban edition

    Non issue.

    What he said was racial, like "black players jump higher." It wasn't racist, like "I don't want to associate with Magic Johnson because of his skin color."
     
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    Re: Racial shitstorm part II, the Mark Cuban edition

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    You spelled 'shitstorm' wrong in the thread title. :MARIS61:
     
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    Re: Racial shitstorm part II, the Mark Cuban edition

    Did Sterling actually say that?

    Edit: I mean i know that's probably what he meant, but did he actually say it like that?
     
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    Thanks as always for your contribution
     
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    Yer whelcom :clap:
     
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    OFFICIAL BLAZERS FORUM! Can't have swear words in thread titles
     
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    Pardon me, I didnt see how young you were. Carry on with your pissing match. Your dick is bigger, there you go.
     
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    what...

    Where are you taking this conversation
     
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    To get back to the topic at hand:

    Another thing that's interesting at the end of the interview clip was where he was talking about dealing with bigotry or insensitivity in regard to his employees. "It does society no good for me to kick the problem down the road." I think he's going right at Sterling with those comments.
     

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