Politics Racism and the GOP

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  1. dviss1

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    Researchers have found strong evidence that racism helps the GOP win.
    In thousands and thousands of unmarked cemeteries throughout the South, the gradual decay of human remains forms shallow depressions in the earth. There is no comprehensive list of such sites, and many have been destroyed. Still, in places such as Charlotte and Orange and Bedford and Hendersonville and Tuscaloosa, the ground undulates over those believed to have been slaves.

    There are places in the political landscape, too, where the ground shifts ever so slightly, where slavery has warped the electoral terrain.

    In the South, it seems, old prejudices have persisted. Southern counties that had more slaves on the eve of the Civil War are distinct from their neighbors: White residents in those areas are more hostile toward African Americans and they are more likely to vote Republican today, new research shows. Drawing on archival Census figures and recent polls,

    the study adds to an expanding body of evidence on the importance of racial anxiety to the predominantly white Republican coalition.

    "The underlying racial hostility goes on in the culture, passed on from generation to generation," said David Sears, a psychologist at the University of California, Los Angeles. "Local culture doesn't change very quickly.
     
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    "The great African-American historian, John Hope Franklin, states this clearly: "The majority of Negro owners of slaves had some personal interest in their property." But, he admits, "There were instances, however, in which free Negroes had a real economic interest in the institution of slavery and held slaves in order to improve their economic status."

    In a fascinating essay reviewing this controversy, R. Halliburton shows that free black people have owned slaves "in each of the thirteen original states and later in every state that countenanced slavery," at least since Anthony Johnson and his wife Mary went to court in Virginia in 1654 to obtain the services of their indentured servant, a black man, John Castor, for life.

    And for a time, free black people could even "own" the services of white indentured servants in Virginia as well. Free blacks owned slaves in Boston by 1724 and in Connecticut by 1783; by 1790, 48 black people in Maryland owned 143 slaves. One particularly notorious black Maryland farmer named Nat Butler "regularly purchased and sold Negroes for the Southern trade," Halliburton wrote.

    Perhaps the most insidious or desperate attempt to defend the right of black people to own slaves was the statement made on the eve of the Civil War by a group of free people of color in New Orleans, offering their services to the Confederacy, in part because they were fearful for their own enslavement: "The free colored population [native] of Louisiana … own slaves, and they are dearly attached to their native land … and they are ready to shed their blood for her defense. They have no sympathy for abolitionism; no love for the North, but they have plenty for Louisiana … They will fight for her in 1861 as they fought [to defend New Orleans from the British] in 1814-1815."

    These guys were, to put it bluntly, opportunists par excellence: As Noah Andre Trudeau and James G. Hollandsworth Jr. explain, once the war broke out, some of these same black men formed 14 companies of a militia composed of 440 men and were organized by the governor in May 1861 into "the Native Guards, Louisiana," swearing to fight to defend the Confederacy. Although given no combat role, the Guards — reaching a peak of 1,000 volunteers — became the first Civil War unit to appoint black officers. "

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    Good sourcing for those quotes. You missed out the part where he admitted that passing civil rights legislation lost Democrats the South for a generation. He knew white Southerners.

    Also - do you know what LBJ actually DID?
     
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    Don Cheadle on why he hated Donald Trump before he even ran for office:

     
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    He gets quoted a lot about things like that since its pretty much confirmed he liked to use nigger in private conversations, he also had to convince pro-segregation Dixiecrat colleagues to do things like support Civil Rights legislation.
     
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    I know what MLK, a gun-owning Republican did.

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    Democrats backed this woman in this election.

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    You were saying, Rasta?

    No Republican has ever told me to vote for them based on my race or sexuality.

    The Democrats did.
     
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    OMG fake Hillary quotes! Wow, great job copying and pasting.
     
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    Just like your fake claims of denial of women's rights from our President, right?
     
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    Lol

    Enough about trump, let's hear some quotes from the president 50 years ago. That is the cutting edge of current events.
     
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    I'm sorry that the Democrats being the party of racism, slavery, and Jim Crow is hard for you to accept. I'm sure you'll come to terms with it sooner or later.

    Like I said....no Republican ever told me to vote for them based on my sexuality and race.
     
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    Some republicans want to ban gay marriage, tomorrow if they could. If I'm gay, and married, yeah dude, that would give me a reason to vote against them. Maybe not the deciding factor, but maybe so. It's up to everyone to decide what is most important to them. Maybe it's the right to swing a gun around. Maybe it's being married to who they choose.

    And if you can't realize that positions change over 50 years and parties change, you clearly haven't been paying attention lately! Shit can change overnight these days!

    I'm not a democrat or a republican, they both are shit for the most part. There are some good people on both sides though. Try not to be so closed minded.
     
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    Regarding this thread, it's kinda simple the way I see it...

    If democrats are branding themselves as the party of minorities, and immigrants, then it's only logical that racists would gravitate away from them.
     
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    Or.....they are simply turned off by the pandering to race, gender, and sexuality? By dividing people based on those things?

    I mean, really....I don't think you understand how insulting it is to be told that you have to vote for a certain party because of your race or sexuality.

    If some politician came up to me on the street and said "You're Bisexual and Hispanic. Vote for me." I'd lose my fucking shit.

    This whole "The GOP is the party of racism" bullshit is the opposite of what I've seen. I've never been more accepted by a political party than in the past decade.
     
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    Are all white republicans racist? Of course not.

    The ones that are racist can spoil the bunch though. And the right wing news fills some peoples heads with such subliminal coded racism that they don't even realize it.

    Of course there are many republicans who suddenly realize that they are being racist and apologize for it, and I think that's a good thing. Like this guy!

    http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/an-apology-to-dviss-for-my-racism.297165/#post-3846392
     
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    I've thought about that post a couple of times since I made it. I take nothing back, but if there was something I could change, it would be the wording of the title; from "racism", to "ignorance".

    I don't believe that disagreeing with issues of race makes someone racist. Ignorant, perhaps. But not racist.

    Openly calling someone the N-word, and/or proclaiming your race as superior (which I don't believe the white race is)...THAT is racism.
     
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    http://www.vox.com/2016/3/22/11278760/war-on-drugs-racism-Nixon

    If you have Netflix I highly recommend the documentary "13th". Slave labor is alive and well in the USA and we've made almost no progress other than renaming it. There is plenty of blame to go around both political parties but Donald Trump is full of rhetoric we haven't heard since the Jim Crowe Laws and it IS scary.
     
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    Sincere question: What rhetoric, specifically, do you find scary?
     
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