Raja Bell Phantom Elbow

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  1. Shapecity

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    http://rapidshare.de/files/19564858/Phanto...Game_5.wmv.html

    Please watch this video, he was not elbowed in the face. If you watch the last angle, which is the most direct it shows clearly he flopped. Go to 27 secs to 30 secs of the clip. This is the footage from TNT.

    Raja Bell my jaw hurts? What a damn liar.
     
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    raja bell pisses the hell out of me. im not even going to watch that vid in order to save me from breaking something. that stupid mo fo! i cant tell you how much i hate him
     
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    I said in this about the elbow's in the suns forum.

    "If his jaw is hurting that bad, he's either a complete ***** or a blatant liar."

    I say both.
     
  4. Run BJM

    Run BJM Heavy lies the crown. Staff Member Global Moderator

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"Any player that was going to come down the lane at that point in time, I was going to let him know that he just can't walk through there,"</div>
    - Kobe Bryant after elbowing Mike Miller in the throat.

    Kobe ought to know all about getting hit in the face accidentally and responding by "protecting the paint".

    It looks to me like Raja did get hit, freeze the video at 00:23 and 00:27. from the last shot at 00:27 Kobe's head blocks the contact but its easy to see that his elbow makes contact with Raja's face.
     
  5. jessica

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    That has to be the funniest thing I've ever seen! He's such a liar! I hope some of those Sun fans who keep saying "Kobe deserved what he got because he elbowed him in the jaw" see this.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It looks to me like Raja did get hit, freeze the video at 00:23 and 00:27</div>
    The angle makes it look like he got hit. If look at the replay that starts at 27 seconds it's obvious he wasnt.
     
  7. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">- Kobe Bryant after elbowing Mike Miller in the throat.

    Kobe ought to know all about getting hit in the face accidentally and responding by "protecting the paint".

    It looks to me like Raja did get hit, freeze the video at 00:23 and 00:27. from the last shot at 00:27 Kobe's head blocks the contact but its easy to see that his elbow makes contact with Raja's face.</div>

    Keep watching. The best angle of the play is the last one and it's crystal clear he flopped.
     
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    Hmm, I'm not sure that's too conclusive. I can see the point at which it looks like nothing hit him. But before that his head is obscured by Kobe's and the elbow could easily have connected then. It's impossible to see the degree of rotation of Kobe's shoulder at that point.
     
  9. Chutney

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    I saw the elbow. If you pause it in between 0:04 and 0:05 (I had to repeatedly press the pause button), there's a pretty clear view of Kobe's elbow in contact with Raja's jaw. There's one particular frame, where the screen goes a little brighter. Kinda hard to describe. At 0:22, you see Kobe's elbow go behind Raja's head. Part of it is obscured, but Bell's head moves to the other side. It looks like a more genuine reaction as well, as its like a second before he falls down and starts clutching his jaw.

    That shot at 0:27 is a little misleading, IMO. You only see the elbow after its swung through and Kobe's left shoulder blocks the contact. I still think it was a definite elbow, but you are right that Bell embellished it. Just watch his reaction in the 3rd replay. You see the initial reaction, where his head swings back and he's slightly dazed around 0:27 or 0:28. Then when he regains his senses around 0:29, he grabs his jaw and falls down purposely, IMO, before the NBA logo flashes on.
     
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    Everyone who plays basketball has been hit with an elbow that dosent mean you go cry about it and retaliate.... what a cry baby..he just cant gaurd kobe so hes mad
     
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    wow, that's hilarious.

    what a fake.

    thanks a lot for the video Shape.

    It's so funny how you Kobe haters TRY YOUR HARDEST to try and make it seem like that elbow connected.

    I haven't seen one non-laker fan just say "Yeah, I guess Raja faked it, guess Kobe was right after all."

    Grow up. Stop trying so hard to hate someone.
     
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    When you play D that close to a player, expect some elbows. Raja was all up on Kobe's ish.. You can expect to get hit with elbows when you decide to make love to a player instead of guard him.. Raja been playin all up on Kobe most of the series.
     
  13. 1kobe2gasol3bynum4odom

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    The best way to tell if he got hit by Kobe or not is by seeing Kobe's reaction afterward. In the video, I think he got a hit a tiny bit and flop to the ground as if Kobe hitted him hard in the Jaw.
     
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    i know raja flopped.. look at Kobe's immediate reaction when Kobe was called for the foul, he was pretty surpised so im pretty sure no contact was made. Sure an elbow went up but i doubt it ever hit Raja's face, it came close though
     
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    And he went on tv talking how kobe elbowed him and stuff totalyy bs
     
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    That video doesn't prove there was no contact. It's possible that Kobe's body was blocking the contact from that angle. The video clip sort of slows down afterwards when there is separation making it look like Bell is just flopping for no reason.
     
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    Maybe the elbow did contact but at least it wasn't intentional. Kobe got this foul. Raja Bell should let it go. What he did was just stupid and unprofessional. I play bball alot. I should have thrown down my frds alot if I am Bell, since i got elbow alot too. Basketball game is physical. If you don't want that, go play golf then.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting jessica:</div><div class="quote_post">That has to be the funniest thing I've ever seen! He's such a liar! I hope some of those Sun fans who keep saying "Kobe deserved what he got because he elbowed him in the jaw" see this.</div>

    Suns fans are angry because of Luke Walton's hard foul on Tim Thomas and because of the Boris, Kwame incident. Last year when any team started playing physical with us Amare would start slamming the ball down the other teams throat. Suns fans are upset because we were getting itimidated out there, this is one of the huge reasons why we miss Amare, Amare would have shut Kwame into a corner by now with ten or twelve posters recording the damage.

    So did Kobe deserve this-- No nobody deserves to be choked slammed, but did the suns fans want some sort of physical toughness-- Yes not to this extent. This is the reason we will make lame excuses to justify the foul, because we wanted some physicality from the Suns team. Since Kobe is the motor for the Lakers, Raja wanted to send a message that not only can we blowout you guys put there will be no more pansy fouls when the Lakers try to slice into the lane.

    This foul does hurt us more than it helps but maybe you can see now why Suns fans a sticking by Bell.
     
  19. Martin

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    I just love Raja.He's such a great person,I love everyone who hates Kobe. (Maybe that explains why I seem to like everything about Philly)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Martin:</div><div class="quote_post">I just love Raja.He's such a great person,I love everyone who hates Kobe. (Maybe that explains why I seem to like everything about Philly)</div>

    LOL. Your pretty stupid for admitting that. Anything you say about Kobe or The Lakers has no credibility because its coming from hate. [​IMG]

    Raja Bell is a poose. He says he has no respect for Kobe when Kobe said he enjoys playing a rough game. Bell falls over at the first chance he gets to play "rough" as he's been intending to all series and he says he has no respect for Kobe. What a faker. Leave the real battling for players like Artest and Kobe.
     

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