Let's say you are GM of a team in a certain year, when the team did not draft greatly. Using what you now about the NBA, how would you draft, and how would that team look now? Keep the current rosters the same, but take away the players the team drafted.Pistons:In 2003, we drafted Darko Milicic 2nd and Carlos Delfino 25th. We could have drafted Chris Bosh 2nd, and Josh Howard 25th.PG: Chauncey Billups / Lindsay HunterSG: Rip Hamilton / Flip Murray SF: Tayshaun Prince / Josh Howard / Amir JohnsonPF: Chris Bosh / Antonio McDyess / Jason MaxielC: Rasheed Wallace / Nazr Mohammed / Dale DavisHawks:In 2004, they drafted Josh Childress 6th, Josh Smith 17th, and Royal Ivey 37th. Instead of Josh Childress, they could have Andre Iguodala, instead of Josh Smith, they could have Jameer Nelson, and instead of Royal Ivey, they could have Trevor Ariza.
This is all what if's. If they actually did draft the people you proposed now, they would have built much differently. Had they drafted Bosh they probably wouldn't have traded for Sheed as they would have had Chauncey, Rip, Tayshaun, Bosh and Ben.
2004 NBA draft.Andre Iguodala instead of Rafael Araujo...PG-TJ Ford/Jose CalderonSG-Andre Iguodala/Fred JonesSF-Morris Peterson/Anthony Parker/Joey Graham/PJ TuckerPF-Chris Bosh/Jorge Garbajosa/Kris JumphriesC-Rasho Nesterovic/Andrea BargnaniThat team would be ballin'.
In 2001, the Celtics had the 10th and 11th picks. Before the draft, the Celtics made a verbal commitment to Gilbert Arenas, saying that they would take him at 11th if he wasn't picked by then. What happened? We took KEDRICK BROWN (who was out of JUNIOR COLLEGE and was a big bust, out of the league by age 24 or 25). We took Joe Johnson at 10, that I would have kept. But I would have done what they said they would do in the first place: take Arenas at 11. If not, hell, how about Tony Parker?C: Tony BattiePF: Antoine WalkerSF: Paul PierceSG: Joe JohnsonPG: Gilbert Arenas^^^ Coulda, shoulda, woulda...
1995 draft with the number one pick the Golden State Warriors took Joe Smith. Let's take Kevin Garnett and use this in Nellie ballG: BaronSG: EllisSF: Pietrus/JRichPF: KGC: Biedrins
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CABANGBANG @ Dec 27 2006, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1995 draft with the number one pick the Golden State Warriors took Joe Smith. Let's take Kevin Garnett and use this in Nellie ballG: BaronSG: EllisSF: Pietrus/JRichPF: KGC: Biedrins</div>This is where people are SO wrong, when they do a re-draft or a trade undo. They keep their current team, then re-do a move from years ago (almost 12 in this case). If you drafted Kevin Garnett, EVERYTHING would be different. You would have never drafted Richardson, Ellis, Biedrins, Pietrus, etc. because you would have been in different draft positions every year. You probably wouldn't have traded for Baron Davis either, because times would then change, and you would have an entire different lineup/outlook.That's like me saying we should have kept Billups, Joe Johnson, and drafted Arenas, then say we'd have Pierce/Walker/Arenas/Billups/Johnson PLUS Al Jefferson, Gerald Green, Tony Allen, Delonte West, etc. It just wouldn't have happened because if we did keep Chauncey Billups, we would have been in different draft positions every year after that.
This isn't one year, butacersg - gilbert arenas / jamal tinsley / sarunas jasikavicious (sp)sg - paul pierce / josh howard / steven jacksonsf - rashard lewis / danny grangerpf - al harrington / carlos boozerc - jermaine o'neal / jeff foster
that would never happen pacersfan this is a bad idea because if you draft somebeody else you wouldnt have who you have now and have a completly different rost
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Dec 27 2006, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>that would never happen pacersfan this is a bad idea because if you draft somebeody else you wouldnt have who you have now and have a completly different rost</div>I realize that. I just did it for fun. I know we could never get a better roster than the one we had 3 years ago
Instead of the Sixers drafting Larry Hughes, I would have drafted no one else but Dirk. The talk about AI never having a true second option, but Dirk would have been perfect. Our lineup would have been like this the following season.G:SnowG:IversonF:LynchF:NowitzkiC:RatliffWell, not that better. But it would have been nice to see them improve over the years.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Dec 27 2006, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In 2001, the Celtics had the 10th and 11th picks. Before the draft, the Celtics made a verbal commitment to Gilbert Arenas, saying that they would take him at 11th if he wasn't picked by then. What happened? We took KEDRICK BROWN (who was out of JUNIOR COLLEGE and was a big bust, out of the league by age 24 or 25). We took Joe Johnson at 10, that I would have kept. But I would have done what they said they would do in the first place: take Arenas at 11. If not, hell, how about Tony Parker?C: Tony BattiePF: Antoine WalkerSF: Paul PierceSG: Joe JohnsonPG: Gilbert Arenas^^^ Coulda, shoulda, woulda...</div>That's such a godly lineup<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Dec 27 2006, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is where people are SO wrong, when they do a re-draft or a trade undo. They keep their current team, then re-do a move from years ago (almost 12 in this case). If you drafted Kevin Garnett, EVERYTHING would be different. You would have never drafted Richardson, Ellis, Biedrins, Pietrus, etc. because you would have been in different draft positions every year. You probably wouldn't have traded for Baron Davis either, because times would then change, and you would have an entire different lineup/outlook.That's like me saying we should have kept Billups, Joe Johnson, and drafted Arenas, then say we'd have Pierce/Walker/Arenas/Billups/Johnson PLUS Al Jefferson, Gerald Green, Tony Allen, Delonte West, etc. It just wouldn't have happened because if we did keep Chauncey Billups, we would have been in different draft positions every year after that.</div>You can throw T-Mac in there too
Okay, in 2004 we drafted Devin Harris with the 5th and Pavel with the 21st. I would still take Harris at 5, but we could of picked Kevin Martin at 21. This would give a better bench with a much needed offensive player after Stackhouse. If this would of happened, we probably wouldnt of picked up Griffin midseason last year or picked up Buckner and most likely would of signed George or picked Ager in last years draft. With all that, I'm leaving off Buck, George, and changing the Ager pick as well. We would of still traded for Johnson and Croshere probably. This is what we would of look like.C-DampierF-DirkF-HowardG-TerryG-HarrisBENCHC-DiopF-CroshereF-Kevin MartinG-Jerry StackhouseG-Anthony Johnson11-Mbenga12-Joel Freeland13-Barea14-PopsWe could of picked a project like Freeland with a ton of upside and left him over in Europe for a while to develop and bring him over in a year or two. I think we would be a little better than we are at the moment, but not by much.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheAnalyst @ Dec 27 2006, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Instead of the Sixers drafting Larry Hughes, I would have drafted no one else but Dirk. The talk about AI never having a true second option, but Dirk would have been perfect. Our lineup would have been like this the following season.G:SnowG:IversonF:LynchF:NowitzkiC:RatliffWell, not that better. But it would have been nice to see them improve over the years.</div>Dirk was not that great in the following year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Dec 27 2006, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is where people are SO wrong, when they do a re-draft or a trade undo. They keep their current team, then re-do a move from years ago (almost 12 in this case). If you drafted Kevin Garnett, EVERYTHING would be different. You would have never drafted Richardson, Ellis, Biedrins, Pietrus, etc. because you would have been in different draft positions every year. You probably wouldn't have traded for Baron Davis either, because times would then change, and you would have an entire different lineup/outlook.That's like me saying we should have kept Billups, Joe Johnson, and drafted Arenas, then say we'd have Pierce/Walker/Arenas/Billups/Johnson PLUS Al Jefferson, Gerald Green, Tony Allen, Delonte West, etc. It just wouldn't have happened because if we did keep Chauncey Billups, we would have been in different draft positions every year after that.</div>This is just for fun, to discuss what could have happened had the GM picked better. About the Joe Smith deal though, that is very unrealistic, but it's fun to discuss about.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Dec 27 2006, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In 2001, the Celtics had the 10th and 11th picks. Before the draft, the Celtics made a verbal commitment to Gilbert Arenas, saying that they would take him at 11th if he wasn't picked by then. What happened? We took KEDRICK BROWN (who was out of JUNIOR COLLEGE and was a big bust, out of the league by age 24 or 25). We took Joe Johnson at 10, that I would have kept. But I would have done what they said they would do in the first place: take Arenas at 11. If not, hell, how about Tony Parker?C: Tony BattiePF: Antoine WalkerSF: Paul PierceSG: Joe JohnsonPG: Gilbert Arenas^^^ Coulda, shoulda, woulda...</div> :cry2: :cry2:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Dec 27 2006, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>2004 NBA draft.Andre Iguodala instead of Rafael Araujo...PG-TJ Ford/Jose CalderonSG-Andre Iguodala/Fred JonesSF-Morris Peterson/Anthony Parker/Joey Graham/PJ TuckerPF-Chris Bosh/Jorge Garbajosa/Kris JumphriesC-Rasho Nesterovic/Andrea BargnaniThat team would be ballin'.</div>My thoughts exactly...that was a huge bust for us.
Too bad that lineup contains players not contingent had Iggy been drafted. I mean he has Bargnani on there.
True. You can't determine your current team's lineup if you re-drafted for a year. You never know what your team would end up looking like right now.
Say we drafted Gasol and Arenas still landed into our hands.PG- ArenasSG- Hughes (I don't think he would've left if we had both)SF- West (never did the harris/slackhouse trade, had a later pick)PF- GasolC- Haywood
