I have very little idea as to exactly how much cap space we have with or without Batum. But I feel as if he is easily replaceable in this draft, either byBarnes or MKG or Perry zjones. I know Batum is a proven commodity, but i feel he has lingered too long. I propose we do not match whatever Batum gets, as it is bound to be at least 8 million. Depending on how workouts/the draft goes, I either trade up for MKG, draft Barnes or Perry Jones. Optimally, Drummond is available at 6, PJ3 is available at 11. (maybe package 11 + second rounder to move up slightly to draft PJ3 if necessary - and if his workout proves to be solid). Then we fail to match whatever Batum gets, freeing up additional cap space. Sign Dragic, Nash, Williams. With leftover cap, dependent on who we sign, go for Kaman, Asik, Hawes Throw some money at Mayo, Lou Williams, Matt Barnes, see if anything sticks. Depending on what happens with Hickson, may or may not resign him. Cost as well. No way I bring Claver over. Freeland possibly Dragic/Nolan Elliot/Wes Perry Jones/Matt Barnes (insurance for if pJ progresses slowllllyyyyy)/Babbitt Aldridge/Maybe freeland or Hickson, Shawne Willaims or PJ3 Kaman or Asik/Drummond. This highly upgrades our talent, gets us a couple vets (I may be undervaluing some of them, money wise.) also we have great versatility mixed with vets In both lineups. Dragic/Elliot/PJ3/Hickson/Aldridge Dragic/Elliot/Wes/PJ3/Aldridge Dragic/Wes/Babbitt/Williams/Aldridge. Just so many lineups we could use, with Aldridge at C or PF. Or PJ at SF or PF. Or using Shawne Williams to space th floor. Once again, don't really have cap numbers with and without Batum, but we could be looking at a good thing with the right man at the helm. if we can develop Perry like the spurs did Kawhi, it looks more like a reload than rebuild.
http://www.blazersedge.com/2012/5/1...salary-cap-Portland-Trail-Blazers-offer-match 5.4 cap hold Renouncing him will give us that much more to play with, and if he signs an offer sheet, we will have 3 days to match it. If we don't sign someone before that time, his new salary will count against our cap if we choose to keep him Our cap space is about 20 million minus Batum, Hickson and the lottery picks. With them it is about 12.5 million
It would make sense if we were able to land the #2 pick for MKG. With the remaining cap we could throw at Dragic and a veteran backup SF like Danny Green or Landry Fields.
Yes, I understand that. I should have mentioned, I don't think we will fill our cap space in 3 days that we have to match. And Batum isn't worth the 8-10 mill he may get.
I'd rather match (cap space spending time frame depending), and trade him after the wait period for better value than to just not match him. We need talented players and giving one away isn't the short term nor long term answer. Bad idea to me!
You don't think PJ3 or Harrison Barnes can be a solid contributor? Barnes is more guaranteed, but no way we get him at #11. That's why I take PJ3, sign Matt Barnes (good rebounder, plays tough D. Not great on O, but he works hard.) then and we get Drummond at 6. I guess i just don't see such a ginormous gap between MKG, H. Barnes and the Potential of PJ3. Plus, I rather have Drummond/Pj than just MKG.
Okay. Say we are two days deep. No signings, or one signing. We can either match Batum, or we can preserve cap space. Which do you do? Lose an additional 5 mill cap space, or gain 10 mill, allowing us to sign someone like Kaman (obviously In this scenario we haven't used all of our cap space prior to the decision of having to accept or reject Batum)
I think it's pretty clear; MKG was the second best player on a National title winning team while PJ3 struggled against the likes of South Dakota State.
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Unless the Blazers have an agreement in principle with a guy like Deron Williams or another truly elite player (are there any others in free agency?) then renouncing him doesn't sound like a great plan. If they don't want to pony up a ton of cash maybe they can work out a sign and trade with whatever team is hot after him ... hard to comment any more than that unless we know the offering team and the kind of players that might be available in trade.
The fact that he started a thread and only has four posts total? Seriously though, I doubt there's any player available at 6 better than Batum, nor is there any FA we could entice here better than Batum for the cap freedom he provides. Point is moot. But you know what? Renounce him. Enjoy that scenario when the cap space leads to an overpriced Dragic and a couple of draft picks... Oh and a big pile of cash to count because we never got a decent replacement for Batum.
I agree, it would require incompetence and a dearth of talent evaluation skills. But that would only mean Larry Miller is still in charge. Nobody we could get at 6 or 11 will have a brighter career than Batum already has had.
Yeah, I don't get why POR would just remounce him, the amount of money they gain back from his cap hold doesn't justify letting him walk for basically nothing, or in your case walk so you can sign Kaman or Asik and Barnes? Really? You may have to overpay to keep Batum, but if you sign him last and you have your shit together at the start of the FA period...you should be able to get a guy like Dragic and a big man for the $12.5 or so in cap space you will have and THEN go over the cap to resign Batum....You still have #6 & #11 plus probably a 2nd rounder and Freeland and Claver...That is a much better scenario....
MM, I know you also hate my positive outlook on things, but you know I know basketball. He makes some interesting points. But once I saw how many posts he had...... it was all out the window.
You see, this is where people get it wrong about me. I love your positive outlook on things. What I hate is when they are based on the complete clusterfuck that has been our front office
