If indeed Iguodala is available, because the Sixers are so sucky and he's overpaid for his current performance, then I would do this trade. Why? Because I'm STILL not a huge Webster fan, and having got a glimpse of Batum again, I'm thinking that his minutes will shrink rapidly pretty soon, so it's a sell high situation. Same for Bayless. In fact, with Rudy and Batum and Roy coming back, we're going to look pretty crowded pretty soon, so a three-for-one deal sounds good to me. Of course, it would be better right now to get a big man, as Iggy would be competing for wing minutes with Roy, Batum and Rudy. BUT trading out Blake and Bayless would mean you could play Roy, Iggy and Rudy together when resting Miller, or go big with Roy, Iggy and Batum. (Who's our PG of the future? It's split between Mills and Koponen.)
I'd do that trade in a second. Iggy is a clutch scorer that LaMarcus simply isn't. This team need more guys that can get to the FT line, and Iggy fits the bill. Plus we free up needed minutes for Rudy.
I really like Iggy but we are stacked at the wings, we really need a PF/C, now maybe one is not available but IMO that is the what we should focus on.
Revisiting trades that are not going to happen. Oh well, I suppose it's fun to speculate on such things.
You mean, like 99.99% of all suggested trades in forums? But isn't that what these forums are for? Beats working! Now, why isn't this likely to happen? (a) because the Blazers wouldn't do it? Maybe. But they'd be silly not to. (b) because Philly wouldn't do it? Much more likely. I honestly don't see Iguodala going anywhere just by himself. They want to offload salary, and he is overpaid, but he's probably their biggest asset (except perhaps for Thaddeus Young, but they've GOT to hang on to him, because he's cheap). They have other millstones they'd much rather shift, including Brand (who I'd be happy to take too, but it would mean a much bigger, EVEN LESS likely trade) and Dalembert (although, the whole Haiti thing - can they afford the bad pub in trading him now?) but who's going to take them? (Perhaps the original trade would make more sense with Outlaw swapped in for Bayless, but I just can't bring myself to trade Outlaw, even in theory. He's like a big puppy.)
You mean, like Elton Brand (who is looking much better these days, and certainly killed us both games)?
Trading Bayless would be a grave mistake and if we get a SF, I think it should be a vet who can mentor Batum, because Batum is going to be great.
I'd do the deal if it were Fernandez instead of Bayless. I think Bayless will be a better long-term fit as a starting guard alongside Roy, plus I think he's more talented.
I have never liked Iggy as a player. The style of ball he plays leads to losses. I want the Blazers second scorer, to be a guy who scores in the paint, not a SF type.
I am in agreement with those who would rather try and deal Rudy first over Bayless. Bayless, other than Roy and Miller to an extent, is the one guy who can consistently put pressure on defenses and get to the rim in the mold of Parker. Bayless is not near the shooter Rudy is, however, we have great shoooting coaches who seem to improve those who aren't great, into at least consistently decent. Roy springs to mind when he was in college as he was not the greatest of shooters, but ever since he has been here he is one of the better shooters and has improved the 3 ball a lot. I think Bayless (who ironically was considered a good shooter coming out of college) can improve in this area over time, give him 1 more year, at least. Rudy on the other hand, is mainly a shooter who gets to the rim every now and then, but not near enough as I thought he would have after watching him in the Olympics. We have a lot of shooters already and it doesn't help he will always be Roy's backup whereas Bayless can play the 1. With that said, with Webster's recent play and the return of Batum I don't think SF is much of a need right now. I would rather try and get someone like Bosh if we want to try and get a star, but I don't know if Toronto is willing to deal him currently.
Agreed. We shouldn't be looking for another "3rd star" caliber of player. Roy needs another superstar alongside of him and there are two potentially available in Bosh and Amare. The sad thing is, LaMarcus has the talent to do so, but I am beginning to question why it seems like he is regressing this year. Would LA and Rudy be enough for STAT or CB4? Would there be any way to guarantee they would re-sign with us? If for some reason we did that deal and the player we got walked, wouldn't that bring us below the cap with Miles, Blake, Outlaw, LA, Rudy and potentially Joel off of the books?
If Phoenix or Toronto are in dire need of trading Amare or Bosh because they know they won't resign than perhaps that would be of good value to them, depending on what other offers are on the table. I also think including Blake and Outlaw's expirings (and in some cases a team may value you Outlaw when healthy) are good to throw in there. I don't know what will work as far as salary cap wise, but I think that would be good IF the two teams feel they have to trade there player to try and get at least something in return. I am wondering with Bayless' recent play if they may want him over Rudy which I would be reluctant to do, but may end up doing if I can get a guarantee that they will resign with us. But I would try and use Rudy first and foremost along with Aldridge. I just don't see KP ever trading Aldridge, or Rudy, or Bayless, heck, who am I kidding, this is all hypothetical and will never come true even if both are on the table.
Here are a couple of Bosh Trades I got to work: Bosh1 Bosh2 Amare is more difficult, because he makes more: Amare1 Amare2 I really hate the thought of giving up Joel, but man, I'm not sure he'll ever be the same after his injruy. Also, picks can be added to either side to make whatever fair.
Whoa, I just looked at that first trade for Bosh, and it suggests he is good for -19 wins? F that, scrap getting Bosh!
The ONLY reason for including Rudy rather than Bayless would be if we were convinced Rudy would leave otherwise. Rudy is so much more of a basketball player than Mr. "Stumpier Corey Maggette" it's not funny.
