<table class="breakdowntable" width="100%"> <tbody> <tr> <th scope="col" colspan="2">Incoming Players</th> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"></td> <td><span class="playername">Richard Jefferson</span> 6-7 SF from Arizona 24.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 39.6 minutes</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table class="breakdowntable" width="100%"> <tbody> <tr> <th scope="col" colspan="2">Outgoing Players</th> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"></td> <td><span class="playername">Charlie Villanueva</span> 6-10 PF from Connecticut 9.1 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.9 minutes</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"></td> <td class="even"><span class="playername">Bobby Simmons</span> 6-6 SF from DePaul 6.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21.2 minutes</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <div class="clearfloat"></div> <div class="breakdownwrap"> <div class="bluehead">New Jersey Trade Breakdown</div> <div class="bluebody"> <h3 class="outlook">Change in Team Outlook: <font color="#ff0000">-8.9</font> ppg, +3.1 rpg, and <font color="#ff0000">-0.9</font> apg.</h3> <table class="breakdowntable" width="100%"> <tbody> <tr> <th scope="col" colspan="2">Incoming Players</th> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"></td> <td><span class="playername">Charlie Villanueva</span> 6-10 PF from Connecticut 9.1 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.9 minutes</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"></td> <td class="even"><span class="playername">Bobby Simmons</span> 6-6 SF from DePaul 6.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21.2 minutes</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table class="breakdowntable" width="100%"> <tbody> <tr> <th scope="col" colspan="2">Outgoing Players</th> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"></td> <td><span class="playername">Richard Jefferson</span> 6-7 SF from Arizona 24.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 39.6 minutes</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> </div> </p> Milwaukee also sends lottery protected 1st rounder...Why do this trade? Villanueva is talented and can be a big time player, Simmons is a solid role player and the first helps us to prepare for rebuliding for Brooklyn the Goal being to be the best possible team in 2010.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> hey, i proposed that deal a year ago on BBB.</p> </p> anyways, keep RJ and trade our backcourt.</p> </div></p> Great Minds....</p>
Trading a player when he can maximize their value isn't a Thorn strong suit and that trade doesn't come close to getting maximum value for RJ</p>
If you are selling high, that's not enough for RJ. It doesn't matter anyway because selling high goes against everything Rod Thorn stands for.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>If you are selling high, that's not enough for RJ. It doesn't matter anyway because selling high goes against everything Rod Thorn stands for.</div></p> Next time, why don't you just rephrase what I say </p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Bobby Simmons is just coming off an injury, last I read.</p> </div></p> That's not so bad. Yahoo Sports said he's been out for undisclosed personal reasons. That's why it raised a red flag with me.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Bobby Simmons is just coming off an injury, last I read.</p> </div></p> That's not so bad. Yahoo Sports said he's been out for undisclosed personal reasons. That's why it raised a red flag with me.</p> </p> </div></p> You are both correct. Simmons was injured and missed last season and he just returned on Wednesday to the team from a personal leave</p> </p>
<font style="background-color: #c8e0d8">Thorn won't do this trade, RJ is in his best year, we need a better big man.</font></p> <font style="background-color: #c8e0d8">Though we can't trade for the good at the same value.</font></p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>Haha. Simultaneus identical posts!</div></p> </p> When two people say the same thing at the same time, it's sometimes called a "movie moment."</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>If you are selling high, that's not enough for RJ. It doesn't matter anyway because selling high goes against everything Rod Thorn stands for.</div></p> </p> Withreal estate, you make your moneybybuying low, not by trying to sell high. Rod has the same approach with trades.</p>
Outgoing Players: Nenad Krstic, Richard Jefferson Chicago Bulls Incoming Players Outgoing Players: Tyrus Thomas, Joakim Noah, Luol Deng, Ben Gordon
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>If you are selling high, that's not enough for RJ. It doesn't matter anyway because selling high goes against everything Rod Thorn stands for.</div></p> </p> Withreal estate, you make your moneybybuying low, not by trying to sell high. Rod has the same approach with trades.</p> </div></p> </p> Actually in Real Estate you buy low and then you want to sell high thats how you make money...if you never sell than you never make money.</p> Listen I love RJ...but he's not that great, and at 27 he's probably to old to be a part of our nucleus in Brooklyn. This trade is based on the idea of blowing the whole thing up I.E. KIDD and VINCE as well. Bobby Simmons has LOW value right now...Villanueva is only going to get better and a first rounder next year adds flexibilty.</p> RJ is a solid player borderline allstar at 27...he's only going to get worse. I say rebuild.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jloc857)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>If you are selling high, that's not enough for RJ. It doesn't matter anyway because selling high goes against everything Rod Thorn stands for.</div></p> </p> Withreal estate, you make your moneybybuying low, not by trying to sell high. Rod has the same approach with trades.</p> </div></p> </p> Actually in Real Estate you buy low and then you want to sell high thats how you make money...if you never sell than you never make money.</p> Listen I love RJ...but he's not that great, and at 27 he's probably to old to be a part of our nucleus in Brooklyn. This trade is based on the idea of blowing the whole thing up I.E. KIDD and VINCE as well. Bobby Simmons has LOW value right now...Villanueva is only going to get better and a first rounder next year adds flexibilty.</p> RJ is a solid player borderline allstar at 27...he's only going to get worse. I say rebuild.</p> </div></p> </p> Wait. Couldn't we get better than Villa & BS for RJ playing at an all-star level?</p>
[quote name='peg182']</p> [quote name='Jloc857']</p> [quote name='Dumpy']</p> [quote name='ghoti']If you are selling high, that's not enough for RJ. It doesn't matter anyway because selling high goes against everything Rod Thorn stands for.[/QUOTE]</p> </p> Withreal estate, you make your moneybybuying low, not by trying to sell high. Rod has the same approach with trades.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> </p> Actually in Real Estate you buy low and then you want to sell high thats how you make money...if you never sell than you never make money.</p> Listen I love RJ...but he's not that great, and at 27 he's probably to old to be a part of our nucleus in Brooklyn. This trade is based on the idea of blowing the whole thing up I.E. KIDD and VINCE as well. Bobby Simmons has LOW value right now...Villanueva is only going to get better and a first rounder next year adds flexibilty.</p> RJ is a solid player borderline allstar at 27...he's only going to get worse. I say rebuild.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> </p> Wait. Couldn't we get better than Villa & BS for RJ playing at an all-star level?</p> [/QUOTE]</p> </p> He's 10th in the voting for SF in the Eastern conference...that's not a knock on RJ but the reality is that SF is the easiest position to find players for in the game. A lot of teams have all star capable SF some have two, I love RJ and he is a really good small forward but he's not that valuable if you really consider how deep that postion is in this league.</p>
