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  1. STOMP

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    I think Curry should get it.
     
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    at this point, anyone picking curry over evans for rookie of the year is crazy. curry has played well enough that if he continues to pick up his play and evans falls off a little bit curry could legitimately be right there but that isn't the case right now.
     
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    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    what argument does curry have over evans?
     
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    Exactly. While Curry has definitely improved over the latter half of the season, it isn't even close.
     
  7. EGame

    EGame "You're the only one of these fools I trust"

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    Curry's stats are inflated, and even though both are losing teams, Tyreke has definitely helped improve that team more than Curry has his. Give me Reke if I was starting a new franchise, though Curry would be the better fit for our current team.
     
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    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I just had trouble with the post lol sorry.
     
  9. STOMP

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    playing better for the last two months. If this trend continues he'll come out on top.

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    For the PGs still on their rookie contracts I can't think of anyone I'd rather have next to Roy then SC. His outside shot and PG feel puts him ahead of Westbrook and Rose.

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  11. Masbee

    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    Why is it close?

    Over the course of an ENTIRE season - not just the last month or two - Evans has been better: PER of 18.4 vs. 14.6. Win Shares of 4.6 vs. 2.9.

    Evans DRtng: 108; ORtng 110
    Curry DRtng: 104; ORtng 111

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAC/2010.html
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2010.html

    Curry deserves to be in the conversation, but doesn't deserve to win it as of now.
     
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    Stats aside, an opposing argument I heard on some national radio show (sorry, can't remember which one) is that Curry makes his teammates better more than Tyreke. It was also suggested that Tyreke may not be well liked by teammates. All I know is he sure didn't gel with Kevin Martin.
     
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    sure, but since Curry has been consistently outplaying Evens for 2 months now and there is plenty of season left, what do you hang your hat on? How the season started when Curry wasn't getting minutes and Evens was, or how things have gone since and are trending? For the last month here is their head to heads...

    Points Percnt FTs 3's 3% Rbs Asst Stl
    TE 20.2 47% 4.3 0.4 23% 5.6 6.6 1.4
    SC 22.1 46% 3.1 2.5 38% 5.6 8.1 1.6

    ...and of course Curry was WC Rookie of the month in January.

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    LameR Ha Seung-Jin Approved!

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    Curry is slightly better than Evans for the last couple months, but Evans has been consistent for the entire year.
     
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    i suggest you look over the past two months again.
     
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    I just addressed the last two months... why don't you actually counter

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    february

    curry - 21.5, 7.3, 5.3, 46.7% fg, 34.7% from 3 in 39.5 minutes
    evans - 20.1, 7.0, 5.8, 50.5% fg, 29.4% from 3 in 37.8 minutes

    you're saying that curry was better there? i don't see how that could be anything but even which would swing slightly into evans' favor for being better defensively.

    it basically comes down to evans being far superior to curry the first 2+ months of the season. curry had the advantage in january(though not anywhere near the margin evans had at the beginning) and since then they've been even.

    for curry to legitimately be considered rookie of the year he needs to either take his game to another level, have evans fall off, or both. simply continuing his play while evans continues his play doesn't make up any ground for curry.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Curry's the better 3pt shooter. I think they're close.
     
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    Curry would be the ideal PG to put next to Roy.
     
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    not telling the reader what the numbers represent (specifically 2nd & 3rd categories) isn't helpful in getting your point across
    thats a subjective opinion at best. Mine is they're both decent on D... a push. I don't put much stock in the defensive stats for anyone... they're pretty shaky IMO
    did you bother to look at the last month (that includes part of March) stats I posted? Those were not even... so like I've contended all along he's been better for the last two months. Isn't that the case that you asked to be laid out? :nerd:

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