Roy can't medically retire right?

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    According to a report a while back. This was said:

    http://www.iamagm.com/news/2010/12/09/brandon.roys.trade.value.low.due.lack.contract.insurance

    If this is true, then the Blazers cannot use the "Medical Retirement Insurance" that would pay off the salary, and the contract comes off the books. I may be wrong, but this is what I'm interpreting, since the mandated insurance on players has the exclusion of Roy's knees because it's a pre-condition before signing his contract.
     
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    Just means insurance wouldn't pay it, Paul would. He could still, I suppose, if he wanted to for some reason and the league found a doctor who said he couldn't play.
     
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    But from what I remember, and I can be wrong. The only way that you get an amnesty on the contract, is if the NBA's insurance pays the salary off. If that's the case, then he may still not be able to play, but the Blazers are still on the hook for the contract on books.
     
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    i believe retired players dont count against the cap, but you still have to pay them if it is medical
     
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    If a player retires, they give up the rest of their contract. So yes, it comes off the books. But let's be realistic here. Would you give up millions of dollars?
     
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    I thought the team still had a cap hit for 1/4 of his salary.
     
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    No you are wrong, whether insurance pays for the contract is a completely seperate issue from the amount it counts against salary cap, luxury tax or amnesty.
     
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    all questions of this nature can generally be found here at larry coon's nba salary cap faq


     
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    Hell no, and especially not when I outperformed the guy starting in front of me in the playoffs.
     
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    If a player medically retires they still get paid in full.
     
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    so in short, yes, yes he can
     
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    Yes, but this is what my thread is about. That will not be an option.
     
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    I would like to ask Storyteller, if the NBA doesn't insure the contract, then will it still qualify? I remembered reading that the medical retirement must be attached to the NBA mandated insurance.
     
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    they still qualify to be medically retired, i believe insurance has nothing to do with it.
     
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    Just because Roy is on the insurer's exemption list is completely unrelated to whether or not he can be medically retired. In the normal case of a medical retirement the insurer would cover 80% of the value of his contract, in Roy's case the Blazers must pick up the entire tab.
     
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    Oh okay, then I stand corrected. I thought I read the provision is only qualified when the league insures the player.
     
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    shit, he's stuck on repeat again.
     
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    I don't think that's correct. I think it means that insurance won't be able to cover the contract if the player has to medically retire. The issue with Darius Miles wasn't whether or not insurance would pay for the contract; it was whether or not Memphis would play him 10 games, or 5 games, or whatever it was after the NBA counted Miles' preseason games with the Celtics. That's why Portland lost cap space, and two years later, it's obvious that Darius Miles was used by Memphis to hinder the Blazers in terms of cap space, and to screw Paul Allen out of $18 million, or whatever he had to pay once Miles crossed the threshold.

    Miles can't even make an NBA roster as a 15th man at this point. Fuck, I hate Chris Wallace and Memphis.
     
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    Are you going to blow a gasket again?
     
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    and fuck miles for getting played like that, what an all around joke that was
     

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