Run BJM's Mock Draft (v. 1.1) http://www.draftexpress.com/mymock.php?pag...id=178&detail=2 (I know, its named ak47sbc's mock, its my alternate sn) Heres my first mock draft this year (just updated it), team needs were taken into account for the most part. Tell me what you think. Heres the first round with explanations, second round can be seen in the link above. I might post the second rounders with explanations later but that will take a while. 1. Raptors: LaMarcus Aldridge, PF/C Raptors take the best big man availble. Aldridge can possibly play center and create a formidable frontline for years to come. If Aldridge turns out ot be too similar to Bosh they can ship him off for some nice value a few years down the road but I think he'll be fine at C in the east. 2. Bulls: Tyrus Thomas, PF The Bulls can't get their first choice, Aldridge, but go with the next best power forward, Tyrus Thomas. Right now Thomas doesn't bring anything that Chicago doesn't have but they're hopeful that in a few years he can develop a nice offensive game and be a nice versatile piece for them. This also would allow them to ship off Chandler should they get another big man and don't want to keep Chandler's bloated contract. 3. Bobcats: Rudy Gay, SF Bobcats have a history of taking players from big schools, especially local ones. Gay has god overall potential and athleticism which fits with the Bobcats' defensive philosophy. Hes not going to score a whole los immediately but he could be a better overall player down the road than Adam Morrison. 4. Trailblazers: Adam Morrison, SF Morrison is a good scorer, immediate impact, local player. Blazers are looking to ship off Miles and Morrison can come in and take on some of the scoring load. He gives them size, outside shooting, and a winner's mentality which they lack. Plus he'll put butts in seats in Portland which is a nice bonus since their franchise is going down the drain. 5. Hawks: Marcus Williams, PG With no impact bigs left to take at 5, the Hawks take the best PG available. Williams should be able to contribute immediately due to his experience and knowledge. This is a no-brainer for the Hawks 6. T'Wolves: Brandon Roy, SG The T'Wolves get help for Garnett by getting Roy who is an NBA ready scorer, defender, and playmaker. He's the BPA at 7 and if he can help immediately the Wolves can shop Davis and McCants for some nice peieces. 7. Celtics: Andrea Bargnani, PF Celtics take a high risk, high potential player in Bargnani. They have no major hoes to fill and have depth at every position, Bargnani can be stashed in Europe for a few years and come to the states to join Boston's young core once he's ready. 8. Rockets: Shelden Williams, PF/C The Rockets take a do-it-all big man who will hustle and do all the dirty work next to Yao. Williams is NBA ready so he should help the Rockets immediately. Right now his jumpshot isn't very good but hes got a great work ethic and he could easiy be the starter by the all-star break. 9. Warriors: Patrick O'Bryant, C The Warriors take a high risk, high reward center that they hope can be the answer in the frontcourt. POB is only 19 and has good athleticism and a freakish wingspan for a 7 footer. Could be a great pick or could be a bust but the Warriors need to take some risks to get out of there playoff drought. 10. Sonics: Randy Foye, PG/SG The Sonics get a combo guard who can help immediately and down the road on both sides of the ball. Luke Ridnour might be on his way out, even if not Foye can give them a better defensive PG who can still provide the scoring punch that Earl Watson can't. 11. Magic: Ronnie Brewer, SG/SF Brewer is the best big wing player available. Although hes not a great shooter, hes a fundamentally sound SG who can penetrate and make plays for others. He'd be a good addition to the Magic's young core. 12. Hornets: Cedric Simmons, PF/C Simmons will help the Hornets with frontcourt depth. He can play either PF or C since he is reportedly a legit 6'10 with a 7'4 wingspan. Another nice young player for the Hornets. 13. 76ers: Rajon Rondo, PG The 6ers can't pass on Rondo here. Whether they trade Iverson or keep him around, Rondo woukld be a great fit because of his defensive ability and point guard skills. His scoring skills are still raw but he's young and that can be worked on. 14. Jazz: Maurice Ager, SG/SF The Jazz need more penetration, athleticism and defense. Ager's stock has risen due to his good showings in workouts so far. He can shoot, penetrate, and defend and while he doesn't seem like a Jerry Sloan type player he'd help the Jazz alot immediately. 15. Hornets: Shannon Brown, SG Brown is another athletic SG who can do it all. His size may hurt him but hes helped himself alot in workouts. Hes the best overall SG available and fills a need for the Hornets, he'll be a good fit alongside Chris Paul and his presence allows JR Smith to be traded. 16. Bulls: Rodney Carney, SG/SF Bulls get a big guard with tons of athleticism and a nice jumpshot. He should fit into their system well with his defensive ability as well as shooting and slashing skills. This is a no-brainer for the Bulls getting a swingman with such high potential. 17. Pacers: Qiuncy Douby, PG/SG With the possible departure of Fred Jones and Peja as well as the imminent trading of Stephen Jackson and Jamaal Tinsley, the PAcers need depth, versatality and produciton from thier backcourt. Douby will provide overall scoring and excellent shooting from either PG or SG for the Pacers, possibly becoming a 20 ppg scorer. 18. Wizards: Saer Sene, C Washington adds another project big man with high potential but this one will help alot with defense. It seems like alot of projects for them but once some of their young big men are ready they will have a very solid and deep frontline. 19. Kings: Hilton Armstrong, C/PF Kings gain more athleticism, defnese, and dept in the frontcourt. The Kings lack shot blocking, rebounding and dirty work and Armstonrg will help them out in that regard. Armstrong is an easy pick for the Kings who will probably go in a more defensive direction with the addition of Musselman as the head coach. 20. Knicks: Shawne Williams, SF Williams is a young SF who can do everything on the court. He should help the Knicks alot with defense, shot blocking, steals, rebounding and overall cohesivness. Hes my pick for the steal of the draft if he goes late first round. 21. Suns: Jordan Farmar, PG Farmar is a PG very similar to Nash with his playmaking ability and good shooting ability. The Suns can't pass him up since he will be able to continue to run the team and play Nash's role once Nash retires. 22. Nets: Sergio Rodriguez, PG Nets draft their heir apparent to Kidd in Sergio Rodriguez. Rodriguez is more of a Nash-style PG because of his scoring ability and lack of defense but his ability to run a team is what attracts the Nets. Kidd is still very affective but in a year or two I can see the Nets trading him to a contender for some nice pieces and allowing Sergio to run the team. 23. Nets: Josh Boone, C/PF Boone is a perfect fit in NJ. Hes athletic, can run the floor, can catch and dunk, and will block alot of shots and collect alot of rebounds. New Jersey needs overall depth at PF/C but lacks athletic bigs who will block shots and can convert easy dunks and layups inside a la K-MArt. Boone is a nice fit here. 24. Grizzlies: Mardy Collins, PG Collins is the pure PG that the Grizz lack currently. He's got pretty high potential and fits in with the Grizz' system due to his solid defense. Once he develops offensively he'd be a great running mate alongside Pau. 25. Cavaliers: Kyle Lowry, PG The Cavs take Lowry to add youth to their slow, aging PGs. Lowry brings all of the defensive intensity that Snow does but he's a much better penetrator and hes quickly improving his jumpshot. He may not be a "pure PG" but LeBron and Hughes are great playmakers for their positions so it will be irrelevant. 26. Lakers: Leon Powe, PF Ever since Powe has worked out for the Lakers he's cancelled all of his other scheduled workouts and dropped out of the ORL pre-draft camp. Powe would be a good fit for the Lakers, providing scoring, rebounding, and overall big man depth off the bench or from the starting position. The Lakers need more scoring inside and Powe gives them just that. 27. Suns: Thabo Sefolosha, SG/SF Suns get another versatile wing player who play big and will fit in nicely in the run and gun system. Thabo is a highly athletic 6'7 swingman with a massive wingspan. He's a swiss army knife; being able to play great defense, hit shots, handle the ball like a PG, and rebound. 28. Mavericks: Dee Brown, PG Brown is another sparkplug for the Mavs who may let Terry walk and give the starting PG role to Devin Harris. Brown can shoot and penetrate at will, he should fit in with the Mavs bench unit. Also provides depth at the only positino where Dallas may need another young prospect. 29. Knicks: JJ Redick, SG Redick's inability to defend, rebound, or play PG has caused him to fall. The Knicks will take him since he could possibly be a star and he can space the floor for Curry. 30. Trailblazers: Paul Davis, PF/C Davis can score in the post, shoot, and rebound very well. Hes a very polished big who only fell because hes not very athletic. He can contribute immediately and help off the bench for the Blazers.
Pretty good mock, some things are that no way Utah passes up on some of those guards for Rashard Anderson....Gansey, Gibson, Yue, or DW Jr. It's pretty good though. BTW-You have to search and find some better players on their thing
Just made some changes to it based on players' stocks, and likelyhood of players staying in the draft based on workouts.
Lakers need PG help doesnt need to be a big guard necessarily but has to be a past first minded pg in the mold of Jason Kidd I think Lowry or Rondo best fit in their scheme of things.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bruin007:</div><div class="quote_post">Lakers need PG help doesnt need to be a big guard necessarily but has to be a past first minded pg in the mold of Jason Kidd I think Lowry or Rondo best fit in their scheme of things.</div> you dont get the triangle do you? for the triangle offense, we dont need "traditional point guards". we need point guards that can hit the threes and hit the open shots anyways, if foye falls all the way the sixers 13th pick, id be ecstatic!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bruin007:</div><div class="quote_post">Lakers need PG help doesnt need to be a big guard necessarily but has to be a past first minded pg in the mold of Jason Kidd I think Lowry or Rondo best fit in their scheme of things.</div> Collins is a pure PG, just because he's 6'6 doesn't mean hes a SG. In the Triangle big PGs who can play defense and shoot well are ideal. Collins' shot isn't good right now but thats an area that can easily be improved. Plus Lowry and Rondo are both gone before the Lakers pick.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">Collins is a pure PG, just because he's 6'6 doesn't mean hes a SG. In the Triangle big PGs who can play defense and shoot well are ideal. Collins' shot isn't good right now but thats an area that can easily be improved. Plus Lowry and Rondo are both gone before the Lakers pick.</div> I agree that Collins would be a great fit, but what are the chances he slips that low? Not high. There are several teams I can think of in the #13-23 range that would love for him to slip to them, like the Grizzlies, who would never take Quincy Douby. The main reason they were swept by the Mavs in the playoffs this year was the play of Chucky Atkins and Bobby Jackson, two shoot-first type points who've never played a lick of defense in their lives. If we bring in a point guard through the draft then, it'll likely be someone like Jordan Farmar who think pass-first, or a defensive specialist, like Mardy Collins. I also can't see Carney going as high as #8 to Houston. He was recently dominated by Maurice Ager in a New Orleans workout, and he's been showing scouts and GM's all of his weaknesses: his softness, his poor decision making, and his inability to create for his teammates. I know that he's been working out with McGrady, but McGrady's not the team's GM. Besides, McGrady's not necessarily working out with him because he likes his talent but rather because his brother, Chance, is a University of Memphis walk-on. Shelden Williams seems like a much more logical pick for the Rockets; he'd be someone who could give them everything on the interior that they thought they'd get from Stromile Swift. If they've got their hearts set on drafting a swingman though, I think that Brewer would have the edge over Carney, especially because he doesn't need a lot of shots and touches to be effective like Carney, and he involves his teammates really well, also unlike Carney. The Sonics pick seems kind of questionable too. Williams is probably the best player on the board at that point, but they're so loaded in the frontcourt that it's hard to see them getting another big man, especially considering that all of the big men they currently have are all young, developing talent. Brewer's a great fit because they lack depth on the wing, and Lewis is a free agent. A point guard would also make some sense with Ridnour's future as a Sonic in question, so I could see Foye, the next best player on the draft board, being taken here. For the Bulls' second pick, you hit the nail on the head by saying that Armstrong is similar to Chandler, but don't they want to get away from players like Chandler and add more offense in the post? Besides, after drafting Bargnani, they'll probably look for a Shannon Brown-Mardy Collins type player who can play two positions in the backcourt and will be a defensive stopper. Brown, if available at that point, makes particular sense as an alumn of Skile's alma matter and someone who Bulls scouts and management labeled as a 'phenomenal' talent after a Chicago workout a few weeks ago. Besdies, I know I've ranted about Armstrong a hundred times before, but I really think his talent is overrated: he's rail-thin, inconsistent, and a liability on offense. J.J. Redick also slipped way too far in this mock. For someone with his stroke, he should be in heavy lottery consideration and shouldn't fall much further than the early 20's at the latest. I know he gets a hard time for "not being able to create on offense," but he was actually one of the better players in college basketball in curling around screens for the open shot, and while he doesn't have the ball handling ability to run the point, he has the ability to create space for the open shot off the dribble. I pretty much agree with every other pick I didn't bring up here though, so very solid first mock; you always know your stuff.
Thanks for the input, Voodoo. The Memphis pick was one that I thought about for a while, I obviously don't know very well what their needs are but it seems like they need a 20 ppg scorer in the backcourt to compliment Gasol as well as maybe some depth in the frontcourt with the probable departure of Lo Wright in free agency. Douby is undersized and perhaps a combo guard but he's got Arenas type potential and his shooting stroke alone should be good enough to get him 15 ppg. I'll definitely consider your thoughts since you would know what the Grizz need more than I would. Carney is indeed slipping due to his performance in workouts. I've never really liked him that much but it seems like alot of people do because of his athleticism and shooting stroke. I think he would be a good fit in Houston because they are in need of a big guard who can hit the three but it seems like hes becoming more and more of a reach at 8. As for Redick, I really think he's not worth a lotto pick and come draft time he'll be a mid-late first round pick. At 6-4 and extremely unathletic hes a HUGE defensive liability, I can't think of any SG who would break a sweat scoring on this guy. He just stands no chance. Hes not quick enough or skilled enough in ballhandling to be a PG. Hes going to be a 6th man at best in the NBA. Hes probably the best shooter in the draft but I'd rather have a Douby or take Novak, Rashad Anderson, Roby, Alan Ray in the second round because at least these guys have athleticism or height on their side. Redick could be a good sixth man on a team with a great post presence but otherwise I don't see him being someone who has a ton of plays run for him because hes going to shoot a lower percentage than an athletic, penetrating guard or a big man with a post game. I see him as being a Fred Hoiberg or maybe less athletic Eddie House.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">Collins is a pure PG, just because he's 6'6 doesn't mean hes a SG. In the Triangle big PGs who can play defense and shoot well are ideal. Collins' shot isn't good right now but thats an area that can easily be improved. Plus Lowry and Rondo are both gone before the Lakers pick.</div> Lowry and Rondo are not as highly regarded as other pg's in the draft ie Marcus Williams and Jordan Farmar. If they are gone by this point I wouldn't mind taking Dee Brown he's lightning fast and has proven he's a consistent three point shooter and clutch in big game situations only drawback would be his size but I think heart and effort outweigh height and strength.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bruin007:</div><div class="quote_post">Lowry and Rondo are not as highly regarded as other pg's in the draft ie Marcus Williams and Jordan Farmar. If they are gone by this point I wouldn't mind taking Dee Brown he's lightning fast and has proven he's a consistent three point shooter and clutch in big game situations only drawback would be his size but I think heart and effort outweigh height and strength.</div> jordan farmer? i dont want jordan farmer. he was a good college player, but i think in the league he will be just another point guard. he has good playmaking skills, but is limited in scoring. i doubt he will ever hit the nba three pointer consistently. as for dee brown? i wouldnt mind him in the 2nd round, but definetly not in the first. the guy is extremely fast, yes, but has a very inconsistent shot along with size issues.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Brian:</div><div class="quote_post">jordan farmer? i dont want jordan farmer. he was a good college player, but i think in the league he will be just another point guard. he has good playmaking skills, but is limited in scoring. i doubt he will ever hit the nba three pointer consistently. as for dee brown? i wouldnt mind him in the 2nd round, but definetly not in the first. the guy is extremely fast, yes, but has a very inconsistent shot along with size issues.</div> Alright its Farmar not Farmer and he has not yet signed with an agent so he's still a college player. Farmar limited in scoring? did you watch any ucla games last season because I didnt miss one and most of the time he averaged double figures and usually led all players including the opposing team in scoring. His jumper is solid and his basketball IQ is far superior to any of the pg listed above him he torched Mardy Collins when we played Temple in Pauley. He also played against Derek Fisher in a scrimmage game here at ucla last summer and showed everyone he can more than hold his own on the next level by scoring on Fish and getting two steals. If it wasn't for him UCLA would not have gotten past the first round let alone reach the National Championship game him and Mba Mute are the best players on the team if Luc declares this year he's a top ten pick hands down. Scout your players a little better.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bruin007:</div><div class="quote_post">Alright its Farmar not Farmer and he has not yet signed with an agent so he's still a college player. Farmar limited in scoring? did you watch any ucla games last season because I didnt miss one and most of the time he averaged double figures and usually led all players including the opposing team in scoring. His jumper is solid and his basketball IQ is far superior to any of the pg listed above him he torched Mardy Collins when we played Temple in Pauley. He also played against Derek Fisher in a scrimmage game here at ucla last summer and showed everyone he can more than hold his own on the next level by scoring on Fish and getting two steals. If it wasn't for him UCLA would not have gotten past the first round let alone reach the National Championship game him and Mba Mute are the best players on the team if Luc declares this year he's a top ten pick hands down. Scout your players a little better.</div> farmer farmar. stupid spelling mistake. listen, farmar is a great playmaker, yes, a great ballhandler, yes. the guy has range on his shot. yes. but he doesnt make them consistently enough. sure, he had some big games, but the guy shoots 41% from the field. you think someone that shoots 41% from the field is a good shooter? the guy isnt even in the nba yet, and he doesnt shoot well. so you think he can just go into the nba and automatically turn it around? you are just judging him on a couple of games he has played, not everyone single one. the guy is also very weak and is a liability on defense. he is not first round talent IMO, i see him more as a 2nd round type of player
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Brian:</div><div class="quote_post">farmer farmar. stupid spelling mistake. listen, farmar is a great playmaker, yes, a great ballhandler, yes. the guy has range on his shot. yes. but he doesnt make them consistently enough. sure, he had some big games, but the guy shoots 41% from the field. you think someone that shoots 41% from the field is a good shooter? the guy isnt even in the nba yet, and he doesnt shoot well. so you think he can just go into the nba and automatically turn it around? you are just judging him on a couple of games he has played, not everyone single one. the guy is also very weak and is a liability on defense. he is not first round talent IMO, i see him more as a 2nd round type of player</div> That's what they said about a lot of great players (Isiah Thomas, Larry Bird, Michael JOrdan) the guy is solid and he has guts. How is a guy who led his team to the Natinoal Championship Game not a first round player?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bruin007:</div><div class="quote_post">That's what they said about a lot of great players (Isiah Thomas, Larry Bird, Michael JOrdan) the guy is solid and he has guts. How is a guy who led his team to the Natinoal Championship Game not a first round player?</div> um, maybe because he is a good college player, but his talents wont transfer well to the nba? listen, there are lots and lots of players who have done extremely well in college, yet they fall off the face of the earth once they reach it to the pros. farmar doesnt seem to have that skill he needs to succeed in the nba. he is too weak, not athletic, and isnt a good shooter. plus, he never really "led" the team to the NCG, it was more of a team effort
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Brian:</div><div class="quote_post">um, maybe because he is a good college player, but his talents wont transfer well to the nba? listen, there are lots and lots of players who have done extremely well in college, yet they fall off the face of the earth once they reach it to the pros. farmar doesnt seem to have that skill he needs to succeed in the nba. he is too weak, not athletic, and isnt a good shooter.</div> Yes the guy is lanky but he's not weak, he does have a consistent jumper (watch him play), and he's thrown down some of the most wicked dunks Iv'e seen from a college player... not athletic? Are you serious? Look at the teams the Bruins beat to get to the final and the point guards farmar had to go against then maybe you'll change your opinion.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bruin007:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes the guy is lanky but he's not weak, he does have a consistent jumper (watch him play), and he's thrown down some of the most wicked dunks Iv'e seen from a college player... not athletic? Are you serious? Look at the teams the Bruins beat to get to the final and the point guards farmar had to go against then maybe you'll change your opinion. </div> just because he throws down a couple of dunks here and there, doesnt make him any special in the althletic range. almost everyone in the nba can dunk. sure, he has made some good dunks, but so has many other point guards in the nba. yes, i have seen him play, and i dont think the guy has much build. obviously muscle isnt that big of a worry, considering he can put on a lot in the off season. how can you say the guy has a consistent jumper? his jump shot is not very consistent at all. plus, the guy shoots 41% from the field. he also struggles from the three point line in college, so imagine what will happen when he plays in the nba and the three point line gets even further
that 41% is not an accurate reflection of his shooting he took a lot of shots to beat the buzzer because when the clock is winding down everyone looks for him to take the shot... I'm surprised its even that high...Anyone who single handedly ressurects the UCLA program deserves to be a first rounder imo and hed be ideal for the LAkers but he wont last that long... trust me on this one.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bruin007:</div><div class="quote_post">that 41% is not an accurate reflection of his shooting he took a lot of shots to beat the buzzer because when the clock is winding down everyone looks for him to take the shot... I'm surprised its even that high...Anyone who single handedly ressurects the UCLA program deserves to be a first rounder imo and hed be ideal for the LAkers but he wont last that long... trust me on this one.</div> sure, he shoots shots when the buzzer is winding down, but that still doesnt explain his 41% from the field. its not like he shoots tons of shots at the buzzer every single game. also, the guy didnt single handidly make ucla a good team. he is a good player, but it was more of a team effort. he would be ideal for the lakers? like i said, the lakers dont need traditional point guards. phil likes big point guards that can hit the threes, which is exactly what farmar isnt. he isnt big, and he cant hit the three. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting bruin007:</div><div class="quote_post">That's what they said about a lot of great players (Isiah Thomas, Larry Bird, Michael JOrdan) the guy is solid and he has guts. <font color=""Red"">How is a guy who led his team to the Natinoal Championship Game not a first round player?</font></div> quote from you: <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"><font color=""Red"">They should both stay in school Farmar is an early second round pick</font>...at best and afflalo is mid to late second round if that. Should they opt for another year of school I see them improving to lottery status for both maybe even afflalo's stock rising past farmar's more potential with aaron.</div>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bruin007:</div><div class="quote_post">That's what they said about a lot of great players (Isiah Thomas, Larry Bird, Michael JOrdan) the guy is solid and he has guts. How is a guy who led his team to the Natinoal Championship Game not a first round player?</div> quote from you: <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"><font color=""Red"">They should both stay in school Farmar is an early second round pick</font>...at best and afflalo is mid to late second round if that. Should they opt for another year of school I see them improving to lottery status for both maybe even afflalo's stock rising past farmar's more potential with aaron.</div>
Yes that was my earlier opinion but as the players have come in for workouts his draft stock has been on the rise from what GM's and insiders are saying. Farmar has shown to be a first round pick. Looking at the pg available/declared eligible for the draft I definately think there's no competition and he will be a first rounder I still believe Aaflalo is late second at best. Man you do your research well but no way should farmar get passed on by so many teams. As they see him play and compare him to the available guards he will be taken.
