Politics Russia invites Oregon to secede from US and join them!

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    U.S. States That Wish to Join Russia Will Be Considered, Says Duma Member

    Asenior member of the state Duma, Russia's parliament, said that any U.S. states that want to break away from the country and instead join the Russian Federation will be considered.

    The comments come only a week after Russia declared that four regions of Ukraine had become Russian territory, following referendums that were widely criticized by Ukrainian and Western officials as being sham. These were Donetsk and Luhansk in eastern Ukraine and Kherson and Zaporizhzhia in the south. The votes supported the regions changing from Ukrainian to Russian territory.

    State Duma deputy Alexander Tolmachev was responding to an online poll that showed that some Americans wanted their states to break free from the U.S.

    If Americans vote to secede some states from the country and express a desire to join Russia, Moscow will consider it, Tolmachev told Russian news site Podmoskovye Segodnya.

    The lawmaker said that the U.S. was beginning "to decay," and that its ally, the European Union, which has also provided strong military assistance to Ukraine, was "bursting at its seams."

    Tolmachev said this was a result of a failed American foreign policy. "Such initiatives are a signal that the citizens of the United States are dissatisfied with their leadership and are ready to take extreme measures, up to secession, if the current policy of America continues," he said.

    Mosregtoday.ru also reported the news, noting that on social media, some 80 percent of New Hampshire residents said they wanted to break away from the United States.

    A comment underneath the social media poll said: "Most of Oregon wants to leave Oregon. I support the big Idaho movement. And so should the people living in Texas, Florida, Idaho and everywhere in between. I support any state that wants to achieve statehood."

    However, there was also some opposition to seceding from the U.S. on social media.

    "It is important that voting takes place not on social networks, but officially and legitimately, as in the Crimea, Sevastopol, Donetsk and Luhansk republics, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson provinces," Tolmachev said, referring to online polls.

    Cynthia Nicoletti, professor of law at the University Virginia School of Law, said state secession is unconstitutional.

    "States can't unilaterally secede from the U.S.," she told Newsweek. "This was established both by the outcome of our Civil War and by the Supreme Court in the 1869 case Texas v. White. Article I, section 10 of the Constitution also prohibits states from entering into alliances, treaties, or confederations. "

    "I suppose theoretically it's an open question as to whether a state could secede with the consent of Congress or with the consent of all the other states. There's some throwaway language about the possibility of all states agreeing to allow one state to secede in Lincoln's First Inaugural Address and in Texas v. White," Nicoletti added.

    But even if Russia was proposing that, it's "not a realistic scenario," she said.

    https://www.newsweek.com/american-s...ssia-will-considered-says-duma-member-1750336
     
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    Join a country with no free speech,no rights for gays, unelected dictator. Sounds very Republican.
     
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    Great now we will be voting to join greater Russia instead of idaho
     
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    Was this Oregon house built a DECADE before Lewis and Clark first arrived? Experts believe log cabin could have been home for Russian farmers who moved from Alaska
    • New report says Molalla Log Cabin could have been built as early as 1795
    • Lewis and Clark reached the Pacific Ocean in 1805
    • The construction of the log cabin is not representative of pioneer building methods at the time - suggesting it was made by foreigners
    • Report's authors propose the cabin could have been used by Russian settlers farming in the area to support fur traders in Alaska
    The U.S. put the first man on the moon, but in a strange twist of history it appears the Russians may have beat America in settling Oregon.

    Experts proposed this new theory in a recently released 200-page report on the Molalla Log Cabin, a structure they believe could have been built as early as 1795 - ten years before Lewis and Clark reached the Pacific Ocean.

    Historic building repairer Gregg Olson and architectural historian Pam Hayden have been analyzing the log cabin for seven years and say it is unlike anything else found in Oregon.
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    The cabin's intricate construction is not consistent with pioneer building methods, suggesting it was created by foreigners, and more specifically Russians.

    The way the logs are tightly interwoven, secured without nails and leaving no gaps to fill, is similar to Russian log cabins of the same time period, when Catherine the Great was sending envoys to Alaska to boost the fur trade.

    Olson and Hayden hypothesize that the 18-foot-wide cabin could have been a home for a small group of 10 to 50 Russian settlers sent to Oregon's Willamette Valley as farmers to feed the fur trappers on Alaska's Kodiak Island.

    'The unique construction and extraordinary craftsmanship of the Molalla Log House offer fascinating clues to a mystery that we didn't even know existed about the earliest white exploration and settlement of the Pacific Northwest,' Peggy Moretti, executive director of Restore Oregon, a non-profit helping fund the research, told the Oregonian.

    'It may well add a new chapter to our history and we hope more evidence will be uncovered to further substantiate Pam and Gregg's very compelling theory,' Moretti added.

    Olson and Hayden are now hoping to find a permanent location to house the structure, as well as someone with a deeper knowledge of European construction to analyze the cabin.

    Throughout its storied life, the Molalla Log Cabin has been used as a home, animal shelter, machine shed and granary.

    It was made a historic landmark in 1991 and moved to a storage facility in 2008 to protect it from further erosion.

    The oldest evidence of habitation in are the Fort Rock and Paisley Caves in Lake County, Oregon, which date back 13,200 years. By 8,000 BC there were settlements throughout the state.

    The first Europeans to venture to Oregon were led by Spanish explorer Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo in 1543.

    By the 1770s, Oregon had become a valuable port for trading to Asia.

    In the wake of Lewis and Clark's expedition, which reached the Pacific Ocean in November 1805, French Canadian trappers and missionaries started arriving in the eastern part of the state. Their presence in Oregon's early pioneer history is evidence in the many French names throughout the state including Malheur Lake, the Grade Ronde and Deschutes rivers and the city of La Grande.


    More pictures in the article: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-believe-log-cabin-home-Russian-farmers.html
     
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    *snort* most of Oregon....hahahahah


    The sad thing is, you know maga morons are gonna be like "YaH We ShOuLd T0TaLlY jOiN rUs$iA!!!!!"
     
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    How exactly would that have survived over 200 years? There's barns from the 40's that are completely collapsed.
     
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    Fuck Russia!
     
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    Moscow, ID going to need a real quick name change.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I think it's one of those click bait articles, there's no way that cabin (at least the one posted) is over 225 years old.
     
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    Are they going to just annex the state and then hold a vote?
     
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    I just ordered a book about Cabeza de Vaca, the Lewis and Clark before Lewis and Clark.

    I never heard of him before.

    Amazon book link


    Of the 300 Spanish explorers who set out to discover and conquer the wilderness of North America, only four returned — after covering about 6,000 miles in the course of eight harrowing years. Cabeza de Vaca's incredible account of his 1528-1536 expedition of what is now the southern and southwestern United States and northern Mexico is unparalleled in the history of exploration. The first European to see and report sightings of the buffalo and the Mississippi River, he presents a narrative that crackles with excitement and suspense, from interactions with friendly and hostile Indians and observations on their culture, to passionate descriptions of the pristine beauty of the American wilderness.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    Ahhh. Good old Cow Head. Great explorer.
     
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    https://open.spotify.com/episode/4r...i=eGFmLNYhSdCwtS4Dsqd2MA&utm_source=copy-link
     
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    It's one of my favorite podcasts, the Dollop. I dunno if you've ever heard of it. 2 comedians. One of them tells a story of American history, the other guy doesn't know what the story is, and just improve along. Best part is there's over 500 episodes, so if you like it, you can binge on it for quite a while!
     
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    I'll have to check that out. Comedy and history are two of my favorite things.
     
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    There are lots of really old wooden buildings still standing in Russia.
     
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    This a great idea, I just love ass hole tyrants that rape, pillage, burn, torture and murder..
     
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