Samuel Dalembert???????

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  1. xplicitjc

    xplicitjc cold as a hooker's heart

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    i haven't been able to watch this guy too much, but the more i see, the more i like. from what i've seen, he shows a lot of potential on both sides of the court. he's still young, and not so good that he's untouchable in a trade. how great would it be to have a young center that gets 10 and 10 every night to go along with 3.3 blocks???

    for those who have seen more sixers games this year, what are your thoughts about him??

    i'm clueless when it comes to salarly caps, luxury taxes and trade exceptions...so, is this a possibility?? would you even want him??
     
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    He'd help the Warriors a lot. Unfortunately I doubt the Sixers would want to trade him for anything we got. If we trade for a 5, I want to be sure that they trade Foyle. Or else we have a expensive center on the bench.
     
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    As a Sixer fan I must say that there probably isn't anything on the Warriors roster that they would be willing to give up in order to acquire Dalembert (i.e. Richardson). Plus, since the Sixers traded Steven Hunter (well, pending the exam review) there is very little possibility the Sixers will trade Dalembert unless they can land a even more talented big man in return.

    Dalembert does have a lot of potential, but offensively he just plays off of AI and CWebb. He also has a very low basketball IQ, and makes so many mistakes repeatedly that it just leaves me scratching my head. However, to his credit, he has slowly started to improve on those mistakes.
     
  4. Run BJM

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    Hes got a ton of potential and athleticism but hes got a low bball IQ. He probably averages 2-3 goaltends a game and even though hes been playing heavy minutes for a few years he still plays alot like a rookie. I'd still love to have him because of his defense, rebounding, and ability to finish around the rim. He just got signed to a contract extension thats pretty big but not all that bad IMO for such an athletic big man. It would probably take alot to get him away from Philly tough, now that Steven Hunter is gone.
     
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    This is what I found online about him.. I think He has serious promise.. I remember thinking in the few games I've seen of him that he seems like a fit, energetic version of Foyle.. not something I'd be ready to break the bank to get:


    http://www.phillyarena.net/sixers.php?op=viewarticle&ID=15

    Written by a philly fan
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Samuel Dalembert’s stats are far more impressive than his impact on the game. Samuel (when he’s on the court) has compiled impressive statistics so far this year. 9.8 rebounds and 3.2 blocks in only 28+ minutes per game are more than solid, they’re very good. At least on the surface.

    The reality is that Samuel Dalembert still makes too many mistakes to consistently impact the game. He still fails to do the little things that make one great, that makes one a game changer. He’s far too good at nullifying a good play by making a critical mistake</div>
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">even though hes been playing heavy minutes for a few years he still plays alot like a rookie.</div>

    Actually, he hasn't played "major" minutes in the past two seasons (24.8 and 26.8 mpg over the past two seasons). I'm not going to bother looking up his mpg stats for this year, because obviously it will be higher, but he also has a tendency to get into foul trouble because of his low basketball IQ.
     
  7. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Thanks for the info BigMo. Actually, I think we already have some dude like Dalembert. His name is Andris Biedrins. Low Bball I.Q., fouls a lot, has serious potential on both ends of the floor. Gee, didn't he get 16/10 a few nights ago and get a double double in his first start? What the Warriors need is a timewarp so they can jump ahead to some polished and physically mature talent.

    Good find on the article, CH.
     
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    When you think about it, Biedrins and Dalembert are very alike physically. Both are about the same height and same weight, and both are athletic. Not to mention both have low BBall IQ. Biedrins averages 3pts 3 reb in 11 mins while Dalembert averages 9.5 and 10 in 31 mins. I bet Biedrins could put up similar numbers if he were to play 30 mins. Unfortunately he'd foul out by 30 mins. I change my mind, I'd rather develop Biedrins or Taft.

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    Damn you custodian, you beat me to it lol
     
  9. Run BJM

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting BigMo763:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually, he hasn't played "major" minutes in the past two seasons (24.8 and 26.8 mpg over the past two seasons). I'm not going to bother looking up his mpg stats for this year, because obviously it will be higher, but he also has a tendency to get into foul trouble because of his low basketball IQ.</div>
    For the record, I didnt say "major". Hes averaged 27.5 minutes per game the last 3 seasons, thats a pretty good amount of minutes for a center. And I meant pretty much what you're saying, hes been given the opportunity to play 30+ MPG but he plays like a rookie so he cant stay on the floor consistently (though hes improved a little this year).

    Also, I agree with Anime and CR2, Biedrins is very similar, not only their body type but also their games. Dalembert is 24 so he probably won't improve much more other than gaining more court awareness, Biedrins still has 5 years until he is as old as Dalembert is now. I think Biedrins can become a better player, hes not that far off from Dalembert right now, he may be a little better on offense (just based on his limited post action I've seen).
     
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    xplicitjc cold as a hooker's heart

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    good ponts, all around...
     
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    Basketball IQ relates to one's propensity to learn and apply it as much as to how much one's been instructed or how much experiance they have. Foyle's low BB IQ is a big problem for him. Biedrens big problem is he's a 19 year old Latvian who's still adjusing to being really tall and a millionaire living in California. His BB IQ is pretty good it seems,but he's got a lot to learn.

    Dalembert probably outweighs Biedrens by 15 pounds. Compared to Foyle,he has better hands,not above average,just better. He is not quite the maximum effort guy Foyle is,but not a lazy apathetic bum either. He also just signed a fat contract and fills a big need for Philly,who'd like some success before Webber and Iverson fade away. Chances we'd see a deal in our interest...very slim.
     
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    xplicitjc cold as a hooker's heart

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    turns out that hunter didn't get traded afterall...u think that changes anything?
     
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    Not really... because the Sixers tried their hardest to get rid of him, and he ends up back in our lap.
     
  14. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting BigMo763:</div><div class="quote_post">Not really... because the Sixers tried their hardest to get rid of him, and he ends up back in our lap.</div>

    Who the heck signed him to that deal? I mean he's not overpaid, but it's just really lengthy.
     
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    Billy King has a history of giving players lengthy and unwarranted contracts for no apparent reason...
     

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