Say What You Want About Dubya...

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  1. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Bush has always been a good and decent man. He was just in way over his head as President.
     
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    Ya how nice, since he was the one who sent them there for no justified reason.
     
  4. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    This is true.
     
  5. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    not ALWAYS, nobody is ALWAYS a good and decent person. Drinking and driving, and doing coke (not that Obama is a boy scout either here) is not always good and decent. Firing generals until he found one that said what he wanted about Iraq wasn't very good either. But with that said, I think Bush was trying to do what he thought was best for the US.
     
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    With the possible exception of Nixon, I think all Presidents were good people who tried their best.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    He made up for his youthful transgressions by lying about the yellowcake so he could kill over a million Iraqis for no reason. A standup guy, not evil. He was just a little incompetent by inheriting a huge annual surplus, turning it into a Reagan-sized deficit in his first 6 months before 9/11, and doubling the national debt before he left.

    I feel patriotic, so I think I'll go read about our 200-year old rights they can't take away, like habeas corpus.
     
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    [sigh] It's a shame that all some people can do is intentionally look for faults in others. Sure, it's easy to just believe in your heart that anyone who doesn't adhere to your brain washed sense of politics is an evil human being that should just be shot and those who you buy into are as pure as newly fallen s now- but that type of attitude is both ignorant to the core and says a lot about you as a person.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    I've decided you're right! Next, if you can persuade those million dead Iraqis, your job is done.
     
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    Really? One million killed when Bush was President? Got a link?
     
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    boatsandstars Lilywhite.

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    Tell that to the constant stream of obnoxious anti-Obama posts in the OT forum.
     
  12. BLAZER PROPHET

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    A very good point. And I will take your challenge and say the same to them.

    Also, boatsandstars, please accept my apology for many of the past remarks I have made about you. They were untrue and wrong. I am truly sorry for my posts.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Suck up. :D
     
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    boatsandstars Lilywhite.

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    No worries, I found them quite amusing as I am a street walker, who is usually beaten by my pimp while typing, so good call on that :cheers:

    But in all seriousness, I appreciate your pledge and will do my best to do the same. Apologies as well.
     
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    Shooter Unanimously Great

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    You sure you're not talking about Obama? He's the one who seems to have no idea how to run a country.
     
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    Say what I want? He's an idiot.
     
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    Step up to the plate, Shooter. It's your calling to run this wonderful country!
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    1.2 million from 2003-2007. By now it's almost 2 million.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORB_survey_of_Iraq_War_casualties

    Want a lower estimate? 654,965 from 2003-2006. By now it's a millon.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_surveys_of_Iraq_War_casualties

    In all previous American wars, the body count was not only not secret, it was bragged about and exaggerated. Bush knew he'd be killing this many civilians so the coward kept the number secret.

    I saved links as they appeared over the years and--odd--they don't work now. What a surprise. I'm glad we don't live in China, where the internet is censored. Fortunately Wikipedia has some of the studies.
     
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    That just doesn't seem right. I don't know why, but for over 1,000,000 people to die in Iraq with such sporadic fighting just doesn't make sense.
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    For 7 years, informers have made lists of names of anyone smart enough to criticize what is happening (like me, and the majority of Americans). In the dark, American troops go house to house, ask your name, compare it to the list, and machine gun you. If your family is a distraction (like if they scream), they are left in a puddle of blood, too. If Headquarters thinks you know friends who agree with you, you are led off to the torture asylum so they can spend a year getting the names before you die from the beatings. Then they pay your friends a visit.

    So that's a lot of deaths. Sporadic fighting has nothing to do with it (unless someone pulls a gun on his midnight visitors). Also, these studies estimated the deaths (including the noncombat health effects from the quality of life under US rule) in excess of those under Saddam, when most people were comfortable (home air conditioning, etc.).
     

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