just as the thread states, post the lineup you think will start the season, and post stats for each player. Throw in team records at the end and how far you think we will go this year. Just curious to see what some people think Starting 5-Billups/Hamilton/Prince/Sheed/Mohammed Stats-Billups 17.5 ppg 7.5 apg 1.6 spg Stats-Hamilton 18.1 ppg 3.9 apg 4 rpg 1.0 spg Stats-Prince 16.3 ppg 6.3 rpg 2.6 apg 1.5 bpg Stats-Sheed 21.3 ppg 10.4 rpg 2.3 bpg .7 spg (Has To Return To Portland Form) Stats-Nazr 8.8 ppg 7.0 rpg 1.2 bpg Stats-Mcdyess 13.4 ppg 6.7 rpg Stats-Maxiell 6.8 ppg Stats- Hunter 7.8 ppg 4.5 apg 1.0 spg Stats-Acker 5.5 ppg 3.5 apg Stats-Delfino 5.2 ppg Those are the only players i see getting time next season. Team Record- 51-31 I Say we make it to the conference finals, before the lose of big ben really comes back to haunt us. What you guys think?
So you're scoring 121ppg next year? If they do that, they should go 82-0. So...considering the fact that Hunter is old, Maxiell didn't produce nor did he play a lot last season, Delfino hardly played, and Acker played in a whopping five games last year. Based on that...I don't see your bench being that productive. I can see the starting five being productive...but the bench, outside of McDyess...no way will they be getting that kind of production.
No way they average that many PPG. Phoenix can't even average that and they've been averaging ridicolous numbers the past two seasons. I think the Pistons would be lucky if they could average 100PPG. My prediction: Goodbye Wallace, Pistons play just as well without him.
ight so i went a bit besserk with the ppg numbers i kno we wont get that much production jus didnt feel lik taking the time to calculate the numbers to get a team avg of 90-95 ppg. But however i do believe the key to our season is Rasheed Wallace getting back to a dominate form.
I don't see Wallace as your key. He just needs to average steady numbers and not put up huge numbers. Losing Wallace doesn't hurt the offense at all, so I don't see why Sheed all of the sudden needs to put up monster numbers just because he's gone. If anything, they just need to hope that Sheed an Mohammed can protect the paint as good as Sheed and Ben did. Their key to winning games will be defense. It has been for the past half decade or so and that philosophy isn't going to change. It's just a matter of adjusting without Ben guarding the paing. And Skriptz, just an FYI for ya...Sheed has never averaged a double double. For that matter, the closest he's ever come was '04-'05 when he averaged 8.2 rpg. Another thing...he hasn't averaged 20ppg ever in his career. Now, with that in mind...lets factor in the fact that he's 32 in September. Outside of the freak that is Steve Nash, you don't see many people getting career highs across the board when they hit their 30s. And seeing as how Sheed is a big man, and big man usually digress faster than guards do in this day and age, to see him average career highs across the board like you have him doing (previous career highs: 19.3ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.79bpg...all done in separate seasons), it's highly, and I mean HIGHLY unlikely.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rimwrecker:</div><div class="quote_post">No way they average that many PPG. Phoenix can't even average that and they've been averaging ridicolous numbers the past two seasons. I think the Pistons would be lucky if they could average 100PPG. My prediction: Goodbye Wallace, Pistons play just as well without him.</div> We lost LB and played better, we can lose Big ben and play better too !
You played better in the regular season without LB. Not the playoffs, which matter. I think Prince's role will rise next season.
I think alot of people are under-estimating this team after the loss of Big Ben. Sure his departure was a black eye and a big loss to the team, but I still think they`ll contend, just not as well as years before.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">So you're scoring 121ppg next year? If they do that, they should go 82-0. So...considering the fact that Hunter is old, Maxiell didn't produce nor did he play a lot last season, Delfino hardly played, and Acker played in a whopping five games last year. Based on that...I don't see your bench being that productive. I can see the starting five being productive...but the bench, outside of McDyess...no way will they be getting that kind of production.</div> Maxwell didnt produce? Your kidding me. Late in the season when we put him in alot, he was an absolute BEAST.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting slpnsld23:</div><div class="quote_post">Maxwell didnt produce? Your kidding me. Late in the season when we put him in alot, he was an absolute BEAST.</div> Two good games don't make up for not producing the previous 80 games.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">Two good games don't make up for not producing the previous 80 games.</div> Because he didnt get playing time...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting slpnsld23:</div><div class="quote_post">Because he didnt get playing time...</div> Either way the statement Moo made is true, he didn?t produce.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting slpnsld23:</div><div class="quote_post">Maxwell didnt produce? Your kidding me. Late in the season when we put him in alot, he was an absolute BEAST.</div> ...which is somehow definitive in his ability to go forward and dominate? Chandler and Curry used to close out seasons early on in their careers with good performances. Too bad they couldn't do that for an entire season. Just bec. Maxiel played well for a couple of games at the end of the season, doesn't necessarily mean he will do it for an entire season or become a good player.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Vintage:</div><div class="quote_post">...which is somehow definitive in his ability to go forward and dominate? Chandler and Curry used to close out seasons early on in their careers with good performances. Too bad they couldn't do that for an entire season. Just bec. Maxiel played well for a couple of games at the end of the season, doesn't necessarily mean he will do it for an entire season or become a good player.</div> Did I ever say he was gonna be a good player? No. I just said, when he played he showed promise.
There is absolutely no way the pistons will be anything close to what they were last year. Granted they may have a descent regular season, they will not make it past the second round in the playoffs. As of right now, Its really looking like Miami will be the best in the east next year with Wade continuing to improve, and New Jersey and possibly chicago behind them. I think the pistons will be around a third best team in the east. Ben was this team whether piston fans want to admit it or not. He was the defense and the hustle of this team. Teyshaun will have a huge season and will flourish offensively and defensivley. With the other pistons starting to age, i only see teyshaun as a bright spot for this team. probably a 49-33 season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Answer_AI03:</div><div class="quote_post">There is absolutely no way the pistons will be anything close to what they were last year. Granted they may have a descent regular season, they will not make it past the second round in the playoffs. As of right now, Its really looking like Miami will be the best in the east next year with Wade continuing to improve, and New Jersey and possibly chicago behind them. I think the pistons will be around a third best team in the east. Ben was this team whether piston fans want to admit it or not. He was the defense and the hustle of this team. Teyshaun will have a huge season and will flourish offensively and defensivley. With the other pistons starting to age, i only see teyshaun as a bright spot for this team. probably a 49-33 season.</div> lol. We could make it past the second round, no sweat, its just a matter of wether we can or not, and that boils down to circumstances at the time. If the Spurs could win a championship with Nazr Muhammed at C, there is no reason why we cant. Ben was a big part of our team, you're right, but he can and has been replaced, not only on court, but off. As you said, we have alot of veteran leadership in the lockeroom. We still are a very defensive minded team without Ben, with Tayshaun Prince, Chauncey Billups, Rasheed Wallace all premier defenders, and coming off the bench we have guys like Dale Davis, Ronald Dupree etc. I think I have predicted our winning record for next season in another topic, but regardless, I think we'll go somthing like 52-30, but we're easily capable of doing better than that. Onto Jason Maxiell. I think he definatley has what it takes to, not be a premier forward in the league, but become a productive forward. He only played in 3 games last season where he got 10+ minutes, the most being 27:07 against Milwaukee, that game he got 11 Points, 12 Rebounds, 1 Assist, 1 Steal, 2 Blocks. He only had one other 20+ minute game (21:44) where he got 8 Points, 4 Rebounds, 1 Assist, 1 Steal. If you look at his game Log for the past season, he actually played quite well for the time he got, one game scoring 7 points in 7 minutes, 6 in 7 the game after that. I'd say he produced last season, especially in the minutes he saw. The kid looks promising.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NTC187:</div><div class="quote_post">lol. We could make it past the second round, no sweat, its just a matter of wether we can or not, and that boils down to circumstances at the time. If the Spurs could win a championship with Nazr Muhammed at C, there is no reason why we cant. Ben was a big part of our team, you're right, but he can and has been replaced, not only on court, but off. As you said, we have alot of veteran leadership in the lockeroom. We still are a very defensive minded team without Ben, with Tayshaun Prince, Chauncey Billups, Rasheed Wallace all premier defenders, and coming off the bench we have guys like Dale Davis, Ronald Dupree etc. I think I have predicted our winning record for next season in another topic, but regardless, I think we'll go somthing like 52-30, but we're easily capable of doing better than that.</div>It's really not that simple, and Robert Horry played a lot of PF and C along with Duncan in the playoffs. Hell, IIRC, Horry even played more minutes than Nazr in the Finals.
I think you forgot who Nazr was standing next to in the front court...oh ya TIM DUNCAN. Theres no way Rasheed can get his numbers anywhere close to where TDs were, so there front court will not be anything close to championship calliber, and i doubt a 50 win season also. Furthermore, the Spurs are better at every other position, with the exceptions MAYBE being chauncey over parker, or Teyshaun over Bowen, but those are still close. Pistons are now just an above average team.
