Politics Selling a gun without completing a background check is now a crime in New Mexico

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  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Ok, I'm not sure where I fall on "some" of the gun control laws, but this is the right thing to do. Yes I get it criminals have guns and illegal ways to get them, but we should be forcing people that buy guns to have way more than background checks, like mandatory stress screenings, and gun safety training, and pass some very basic tests to prove out that they are in fact capable of using the power they have with at least an ounce of respect for the world they're part of.
     
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    I feel so much safer now.
     
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    100% Constitutionally invalid, just words on paper which will never survive a SCOTUS appeal, if it even ever gets to that.
     
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    Not even sure thats true, but if it is then change the stupid constitution. :dunno:
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Nope. If the constitution says "Let there be massacres" then let the be massacres!
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    We need a background check for voting, since that is the most important power a citizen has. derp derp.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    A background check for registering to vote makes sense but only because your voter registration might be useful as some sort of other kind of ID. There's no incentive to vote illegally. It takes time and effort and yields no gain other than the satisfaction of voting. Do you really think a low life cares about voting? Oh, I guess you could fantasize about some sort of cabal of people seeking to pool their efforts to get bums elected, but . . . LOL, not in a Million years.
    Registering a firearm prohibits a lot of bad people from owning a gun legally and it tells us something useful about a recovered murder weapon. Meanwhile, John Smith gets to keep his gun.
     
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    I don’t see any way to enforce this law. It just seems like feel good legislation for Democrat lawmakers to appear to be making a difference. Like most proposed gun legislation, it just makes criminals out of legal gun owners.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Mostly it makes criminals out of criminals. What do law abiding citizens have to hide?
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Great job.

    The less white nationalists with guns, the better.
     
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    Pretty sure the government decided that around 1789 or so. Nothing. But per the Constitution, they don't have to.
    Unless, of course, you want me as a appointed officer of the government to investigate and deny until appeal the right of every author to publish. Or every TV script or movie to be checked. Or, here it comes...right to vote. "Sure, sir, I'm happy to let you vote today. Wait until I go through a background check to ensure that there's nothing I find objectionable in your record that could deny it. What would you have to hide, sir?"
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Where does the Constitution say that no background check shall be required? If you find it that means that all these gun sales from dealers requiring background checks are unconstitutional. I wonder if anyone has told the Feds.
     
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    Their guns.
     
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    The less black (insert fringe group here) with guns, the better.

    Doesn’t sound racist at all, does it?
     
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    SCOTUS has ruled they can. Some people (I'm not a legal scholar enough to understand) seem to think that that was an overreach that will be rectified as soon as orangeman stacks the Court back away from activist lefties. I don't know. I think the devil is in the details. :dunno:
    But you're an educated man, I'm sure you've read in the Constitution where it says that no one may be searched or seized without either their consent or reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. At this point, I think everyone agrees that you need to be checked in public databases to ensure you're not a felon or otherwise not permitted to own the weapon you're attempting to get. Anything further, or registration thereof, is a search of records that doesn't necessarily meet the provisions of the 4th, and certainly not the 2nd. Personally, I'm a fan of ensuring that I can check to make sure that no black person can get another weapon. Or anyone with a credit score below 700, because those poor people are probably using it to steal something. Or those making less than 150k/year, same reasons. Or having a registry of every Democratic-registered voter's gun, so that I have ample evidence to confiscate a weapon from obviously mentally-challenged citizens.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Well, since 70% of the terrorist attacks come from Right wing White supremacists I guess I know where the emphasis ought to be.
     
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    I think you just made that up.
     
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    Careful Brian, Lanny has objected to being guided to the BJM, NOG, and Dr. (Capt)VanDorn's Oceanography and Seamanship content.
    I don't know that time for the Constitution will be made either.
     
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    I prefer nothing gets done just like what's been happening since the Republicans have come into the senate and now the presidency. Trump sat there in front of several Parkland students and lied to them and even publicly humiliated the Senate calling them afraid of the NRA and right after the NRA got a hold of him he backs off what he promised the Parkland students. Yep, let's just keep doing nothing.
     

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