Seriously, Is It Time For Marks To Go?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by XXPrimusXX, Nov 6, 2010.

  1. XXPrimusXX

    XXPrimusXX Pointless Avatar Picture!

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Messages:
    1,090
    Likes Received:
    135
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Carson City, NV
    -21 in 8 minutes.

    0's across the board.

    I like Sean Mark. As a person, as a player. Make no mistake about it. But this season I'm watching him a lot closer and his defense has been poor, at best. He still wants the game on his shoulders and can no longer handle it as other teams just lie in wait for him. He has become a plodding and ineffective player. Not that he doesn't have good skills in some areas- he does. But he still refuses to run on a team built to push the ball and does not involve or make other players around him better.

    Then I see Matthews play. To be sure, Matthews does not have the pure skill set Marks has, but his hustle, running ability, in-your-face defense and fearlessness is contagious when he's on the floor. To me, he is the epitome of the player Nate wants. I'm not even going to go so far to suggest he become the starting SG- only that he is the type of player this team needs.

    Marks, despite his contract, still maintains tremendous trade value. I'm wondering if maybe we shouldn't make a trade for another quality PF or PG more in the mode of what Nate wants. To be sure, off the top of my head I don't have a trade to recommend, but just wanted to see if anyone else questions if Marks is really good for the team and its future success.
     
    illmatic99 likes this.
  2. VanillaGorilla

    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2009
    Messages:
    12,073
    Likes Received:
    4,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sean Marks is actually terrible and should go though.. lol
     
  3. XXPrimusXX

    XXPrimusXX Pointless Avatar Picture!

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Messages:
    1,090
    Likes Received:
    135
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Carson City, NV
    Agreed. He played like crap tonight.

    Roy had a good game though +29. 26 points, 2 blocks, 2 steals. I'm glad we have that guy on our team to counter act Sean Mark's suckage.
     
  4. Rodolfo

    Rodolfo Double Stamp>Triple Stamp

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2008
    Messages:
    4,153
    Likes Received:
    47
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    NoPo
    Sweet Jesus, It's his first game!
     
  5. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    62,938
    Likes Received:
    22,138
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    Tonight was not his first pro basketball game. He should've played better. Oberto was world's better. What did Nate see in him at the workout yesterday?
     
  6. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    62,938
    Likes Received:
    22,138
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    I see 3 fouls.
     
  7. Rodolfo

    Rodolfo Double Stamp>Triple Stamp

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2008
    Messages:
    4,153
    Likes Received:
    47
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    NoPo
    KS, of all the people on here to judge someone's ability after one game, I never thought it would be you....
     
  8. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    18,725
    Likes Received:
    191
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    dental malpractice claims adjuster
    Location:
    Portland area
    First, I'll chuckle at your ingenuity. In fact, I nearly rep'd you.

    *deleted*
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 6, 2010
  9. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    18,725
    Likes Received:
    191
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    dental malpractice claims adjuster
    Location:
    Portland area
    I was a bit surprised he played at all in this game with the possible exception of a couple of late garbage minutes. But, he's been around and I'm sure he'll contribute a bit before the season is out.
     
  10. XXPrimusXX

    XXPrimusXX Pointless Avatar Picture!

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Messages:
    1,090
    Likes Received:
    135
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Carson City, NV
    Good call. Checkmate.

    Haha. Ok.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 6, 2010
  11. Charcoal Filtered

    Charcoal Filtered Writing Team

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2009
    Messages:
    4,739
    Likes Received:
    2,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I do not even think Marks was wearing Hi-tops. Looked like a pair of boat shoes.
     
  12. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    18,725
    Likes Received:
    191
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    dental malpractice claims adjuster
    Location:
    Portland area
    Maybe he just came off the shrimp boat and has yet to sign a shoe deal with Keds.
     
  13. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    18,725
    Likes Received:
    191
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    dental malpractice claims adjuster
    Location:
    Portland area
    Oh come on, why was me *unbelievably gross expletive deleted* censored? Did someone PM a mod and cry?
     
  14. XXPrimusXX

    XXPrimusXX Pointless Avatar Picture!

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Messages:
    1,090
    Likes Received:
    135
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Carson City, NV
    I didn't even think your post was that offensive. I'm not sure why it got deleted.

    Really though, to respond to what you said, when you made a topic about trading the best player on our team 6 games into the season, I thought YOU were trollin'.
     
  15. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    18,725
    Likes Received:
    191
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    dental malpractice claims adjuster
    Location:
    Portland area
    I get that, but for the past few years Nate has begged Roy to take advantage of running opportunities and create mismatch situations. But Roy refuses to. He doesn't like that style of offense. Last year it got pretty bad and Nate would jump up and down imploring him but Roy just slowly walked the ball up court each time. A second issue has been his defense this year. I presume he's injured, but he's making a minimal effort to guard the perimeter and players are just walking by him with the ball. The last issue is that his late game heroics, while great a couple of seasons ago, have become too predictable and teams bait him- he falls for it each and every time and with very minimal success while 2 or 3 players are wide open for mid range jump shots.

    Given all that, and not withstanding he is a very talented player, I simply wondered if maybe we had a more compatible player for the way Nate wants the team to play, if we might be better trading him while his value was high. I think it was a legitimate thread.
     
  16. XXPrimusXX

    XXPrimusXX Pointless Avatar Picture!

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Messages:
    1,090
    Likes Received:
    135
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Carson City, NV
    I understand where you're coming from. I just don't think trading the best player on your team, the only all star, the only clutch player, and in my opinion, the heart and soul of your franchise is ever a good idea. Especially considering he's entering his prime.

    Roy has been putting up the same numbers this year as he has for the last 3 and he may be struggling here and there, I know which defensive plays are sticking out in your mind too, Josh Childress blowing past Roy for an easy bucket on more than one occasion for example. It happens, but it doesn't mean he's lost a step, or peaked or any of those other ridiculous claims some posters have been making.

    I honestly feel that the majority of Blazer fans are scared that Roy has had those knee surgeries, is breaking down and that he could be steadily declining sooner than later.

    But it is what it is, just fear. Not reality. Because the Blazer faithful know that while Greg Oden, LA, Camby, Miller and Batum can and will be important to our success, the player who will bring us a championship is Brandon Roy. No question.

    That fear is making some Blazer fans more alert, and they are starting to find negatives in Roy's game that were always there, but because he means soo much to the franchise, it was constantly overlooked.

    I also feel losing the game to Oklahoma City left a lot of people distraught, and some people definitely over-reacted, (Imagine if MIXUM wasn't suspended?) Really though, it was just one game. We'll get it back next week anyway.

    Brandon Roy, despite his injuries, will be a great player in this league for a long time. So people just need to chill out.

    GO BLAZERS!
     
  17. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    37,113
    Likes Received:
    15,968
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    UPS
    Location:
    V-Town Baby
    Let the season breathe a little bit before we start jumping to conclusions about our 3 time All-Star.
     
  18. midnight_show

    midnight_show Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2010
    Messages:
    48
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Guarantee when opposition coaches know a Portland game is coming up, they arre thinking, "Right how do we stop Roy". If we put him up for trade, there will be 29 other teams jumping out of their skin to get him.

    Dont be ridiculous.
     
  19. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    62,938
    Likes Received:
    22,138
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    Before the season is out?? Um we need him to contribute now. Camby can't play 48 minutes. We need 10 good minutes out of Marks every night until Joel comes back. After Joel comes back, Marks better never play again.
     
  20. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2008
    Messages:
    30,704
    Likes Received:
    6,198
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Marks is like a glass of water in the desert ... a brackish, poisonous, diarrhea inducing glass of murky tepid, foul tasting water.
     

Share This Page