shaq gone!?!?!?!?

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  1. knicks235

    knicks235 JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Has Shaq outgrown L.A.? And if so, where does he go?
    HERE ARE FIVE POTENTIAL DESTINATIONS
    Tim Kawakami
    Mercury News Staff Columnist


    AFP/File/James Nielsen

    Los Angeles Lakers Shaquille O'Neal


    Trade Shaquille O'Neal? Insanity!

    Yet you will hear serious whispers about this maybe in a few months, probably by the middle of next season, certainly by this time next year, when the Los Angeles Lakers tumble out of the postseason again.

    Dump the NBA's most dominant big man? Heresy!

    But Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was traded when he was 28. Wilt Chamberlain was traded twice, when he was 28 and 31. Middle-career goliaths need new lands to conquer, and the league is revitalized when it happens.

    O'Neal, who left Orlando as a free agent for L.A. when he was 24 and is 31 now, should have six or seven years left of dominance. But he has gotten sluggish after three championships in L.A., his career expectancy lapsing from Epic to Possibly Abbreviated By Boredom.

    The whole Shaq-Kobe Lakers dynamic has grown stale (hello, Game 6 embarrassment against San Antonio), and the Lakers will figure that out soon enough. Clearly, Bryant, who turns 25 this summer, is a franchise player increasingly restless in O'Neal's shadow.

    Plus, the NBA could benefit from splitting up two superstars who no longer need each other -- in fact, who probably will hinder each other's efforts -- to vie for championships.

    So Shaq must be traded to save the league from countless future Junes in San Antonio, New Jersey and, gasp, Cleveland.

    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, and right now, Shaq outweighs them all.

    You couldn't possibly put together a deal that would make the Lakers as good or better without Shaq than they are with him! The teams that traded Wilt and Kareem didn't!

    Oh, but I can and have.

    The key to this is Bryant, the kind of transcendent superstar that was not present on the post-Wilt Warriors and 76ers and post-Kareem Milwaukee Bucks. Hey, it's not like the Lakers would be trading away their best player.

    When O'Neal was hurt this season, Bryant proved he can lead the Lakers. He has an opt-out clause after 2003-04. He will be more likely to flourish -- and to remain a Laker -- if they surround him with exciting talent, instead of the current flotsam and jetsam collection created by the salary-cap-clogging O'Neal contract.

    The only way to rejuvenate the Lakers' roster is to exchange O'Neal's $26 million salary for more Kobe-friendly athletes, and I have just the financially feasible deals:

    Shaq to the Chicago Bulls for Eddy Curry, Jay Williams, Jalen Rose, Eddie Robinson and the Bulls' No. 1 pick.

    Summary: It's an altered version of the deal Chicago might offer the Minnesota Timberwolves for Kevin Garnett.

    Lakers view: Go from slow and thin to deep and rambunctious. But unless Curry becomes a very good center very soon, they could also be far away from title contention. An exciting risk.

    Bulls view: A slam dunk. Lineup would feature O'Neal, Tyson Chandler and Jamal Crawford.

    Shaq to Minnesota for Garnett.

    Summary: Perfect salary-cap swap.

    Lakers view: Garnett and Bryant, together? Are you kidding?

    Timberwolves view: Garnett can opt out next season; though O'Neal might hate the cold, anything that lands a megastar for the long term is beneficial.

    Shaq to the Detroit Pistons for Ben Wallace, the No. 2 overall pick, and many extras to fill out O'Neal's salary-cap slot.

    Summary: Only the draft availability of 7-foot-1 Darko Milicic makes this possible.

    Lakers view: Bryant might average 40 points with Wallace rebounding and defending and Milicic blooming as Arvydas Sabonis lite.

    Pistons view: O'Neal, Larry Brown, Rip Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince, Chauncey Billups . . . How fast can executive Joe Dumars say: Yes, yes!

    Shaq to the Houston Rockets for Yao Ming, Cuttino Mobley, Eddie Griffin, Maurice Taylor and extras.

    Summary: O'Neal loves the town.

    Lakers view: The best deal for them. Bryant-Yao combo could be dominant immediately.

    Rockets view: Probably wouldn't do it, but Shaq-Steve Francis duo is worth a thought.

    Shaq to the Indiana Pacers for Jermaine O'Neal, Ron Artest, Austin Croshere and extras.

    Summary: Free agent Jermaine O'Neal would have to agree to a sign-and-trade deal.

    Lakers view: Similar to the Bulls package, only with more experienced players.

    Pacers view: Shaq, Al Harrington, Jonathan Bender, Reggie Miller . . . That's better than what they've got, since they're probably losing Jermaine O'Neal, anyway.

    And just for fun . . .

    Shaq to the Warriors for Gilbert Arenas, Antawn Jamison, Mike Dunleavy, Adonal Foyle and extras.

    Summary: Arenas would have to agree to a sign-and-trade, and he definitely would.

    Lakers view: Bryant and Arenas? More tantalizing than practical; they're left with a small team that wouldn't win the West -- or beat the Warriors.

    Warriors view: O'Neal, Jason Richardson, Troy Murphy, Erick Dampier, Jiri Welsch, Earl Boykins (if he's re-signed), possibly Luke Ridnour as a draft choice . . .

    Insanity. Foolishness. And by June 2004, one of these deals (except the last one) might be a lot closer to reality than you could have dreamed.</div>




    new york has nice scenery big daddy.......
     
  2. olskoolfunktitude

    olskoolfunktitude JBB The Pig Pirate

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    I can understand where the writer is coming from as the lakers arent as fun to whatch anymore but i think hes overrestimating kobe or underestimating shaq however u choose to see it. its funny that he said that kobe has shown hes ready to lead the lakers without shaq when shaq was injured. what he didnt mention was that he led the lakers to a 2-10 without shaq. if they got rid of shaq they WOULD be getting rid of their best player.
     
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    nice article, but i think the lakers would be more likely to trade kobe than shaq. as great as kobe is, there is only one shaq in the league and you cannot replace someone like shaq. kobe & kg would be great together, and i think it could happen if shaq decides to retire in a few years. the trade for yao or kg are the only ones i like off the list.
     
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    They fell a lil short this season... they will be back strong next season, if they trade Shaq all I could do is laugh

    ha . . . . . . ha
     
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    If the Lakers want to win another championship all they have to do is fill in the spots around KB and Shaq. Signing PF Juwan Howard would be a good idea, but trading Shaq seems very far off, just looks like one of those articles that the writer has to write about something and makes it up.
     
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    purehoops JBB KGSource

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "thefranchise3":</div><div class="quote_post">If the Lakers want to win another championship all they have to do is fill in the spots around KB and Shaq. Signing PF Juwan Howard would be a good idea, but trading Shaq seems very far off, just looks like one of those articles that the writer has to write about something and makes it up.</div>


    Howard would be a perfect fit for em... me and my friend were talkin bout that a couple days ago
     
  7. olskoolfunktitude

    olskoolfunktitude JBB The Pig Pirate

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    if the lakers trade shaq they won win another championship for years
     
  8. cross yo ova

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "olskoolFunktitude":</div><div class="quote_post">if the lakers trade shaq they won win another championship for years</div>

    that true but it depend who they get
     
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    they will never trade away shaq in my opinion... just add a couple fa's to the mix... et voila.. champions again!
     
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    Why trade shaq. The lakers will be back strong next year.
     

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